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ac fleet 
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 Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 6:16pm |
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HD6GTOM
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Location: MADISON CO IA
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:57pm |
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There are several here. If I ever need to build a new house, it will be a steel frame building with an apartment inside. I was very suprized, I used to have a customer come in the tire shop. The man had so little common sense, I always thought he would have trouble unlocking his car door. He put up one and had an apartment built inside, spray foamed it with 2" of solid foam. Sheet rocked over the foam. Had a 2 car garage on the north end along with a place to keep his tractor and a few pieces of equipment. I had to go out and fix a rear tire on his WD45. His wife took me inside, it was beautiful inside. One wall,8' tall was lined from top to bottom with trophies, bull riding, bare back riding, team roping, etc. And here's me thinking he'd have trouble coiling his rope.
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Thad in AR.
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Location: Arkansas
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 5:28pm |
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They now have metal with a moisture Barkley laminated to the back side.
We’ve built a couple.
They have a metal building company build the building then we come close it in and build the interior.
One in particular had 12’ walks but we built the inside with 8’ walls and a loft over the entire thing. Had a ton of storage up there and they insulated that ceiling. Those folks are quite happy with that one. Very efficient.
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Dave H
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Location: Central IL
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 1:30pm |
My barn has leaked like a sieve. Probably shoddy construction.
Anyhow, I know a couple of metal buildings close by that are being lived in.
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tomNE
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Location: dorchester, ne
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 10:58am |
shameless; we just snowbird in AZ; live the other 8 months in Nebraska! I don't think i will get into the retro fitting of a grain bin or doing my own design. The company i deal with must be big enuff to have blue prints available, then sends only what i need to build the house to a builder with experience on building steel building houses!
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AC from the start of my families farming career till the end!
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Location: Springfield,Il
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:58am |
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Work with a contractor who built 4 steel built homes in early 2000s . Fire resistant as nothing to burn . Also believe rafters were on 4 foot centers so no need for header over doors or windows smaller than 4 foot.
Bad ; need blocking around door frames , for cabinets and anywhere trim or base is set. In the end contractor decided too much trouble and went back to stick framing
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:24am |
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When I built my house I had 1" of spray foam on outside wall then r-19 insulation then plastic then drywall. I has worked verywell. The resone for R-19 was I had already bought it to cover my basement floor to keep it from freezing the first winter without insulation .
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DMiller
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Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Hermann, Mo
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 8:56am |
For Waste Line codes in MO(That are being spread into nearly every county) vents have to exit thru the roof. Can put out thru a side wall of an eave but then has to be 18-24" above roof height at that point to just be legal and that is variable county to county. Standard plumbing code for our adjoining counties is thru the Roof to decrease chance of freeze seal.
Spray Foam is what we used here in this house. Are getting strange Enviro hits on released chemicals from the foam over time even as solidified. Would still have to sheath and vapor barrier inside to spray foam on as a friend did a game room building and the steel sheathing rusted thru in pinholes everywhere(Galvalume) as did just direct apply. Has had to strip exterior and start over.
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 7:57am |
Last summer I saw a home that was built using a large used steel grain bin.
It sure had an open floor.
Edited by Dusty MI - 20 Feb 2021 at 7:58am
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Kansas99
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 7:40am |
Dave have you looked into spray foam insulation? Used in homes and buildings both
If your sewer vents and flue went out the sidewall the roof wouldn't need any vent stacks, new water heater and furnace vent through sidewall as well.
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DMiller
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 7:10am |
Been researching same here. Can have a Red Iron Shop/House Building up and standing on concrete for what would have in a small frame house as to costs. Can then frame out interior on my time frame or hold until lumber pricing does drop.
Steel is not wind proof, although siding is more easily replaced or repaired. Sealing windows or doors can be some problematic as steel shrinks and swells more than wood to ambient temps. HAVE to vapor barrier the interior from the outside sheathing or will sweat just as barns do. Have to use the under sheathing insulation and MAKE CERTAIN no air leaks between that insulation and roofing or will sweat and appear as roof leaks or put the roofing over 5/8 t&g sheeting with a vapor barrier skin.
Commercial Skin is different than barn steel, heavier rib, thicker(Not by Much) skin so less apt to fold back in strong wind, is secured the Old Way on top of Ribs not in valleys as barn tin is done now. Not many flashing products available for the Commercial Grade other than Commercial ventilation products.
Have to be industrious and inventive for Insulation products to make the building R value high enough for a Home Purpose.
Have a plan at a Architect currently, he is toying with it where want to construct Conventional Frame and steel skin it(Barn Grade) house. Want Steel roof, steel siding over Wrapped sheathing, wrap around porch roof to keep window and door openings Under Cover so if do get sealant breaks will not water intrude. MINIMAL roof Penetrations, route plumbing vents to single or at most Two stacks, set a wood stove Flue prior to roofing so is incorporated into roof seal. Architect is writing up all the required fittings as available for use on the build.
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shameless dude
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 2:48am |
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i thought you was living in the south now?
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shameless dude
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 2:48am |
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that's what we're gonna build if we build new. can puts LOTS of insulation in them, plus hydronic floor heat works well in them. open floor plan, can build short walls and change room sizes when ever ya want. low maintiance, others will chirp in.
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tomNE
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 1:05am |
give me the good and bad and ugly!
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AC from the start of my families farming career till the end!
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