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JTOOL
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@Hunter321; Was the piece under the battery itself or under the battery box?
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hunter321
Silver Level Joined: 11 Jan 2021 Location: 52320 Points: 466 |
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it was under the battery box in the clutch housing
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JTOOL
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@hunter321; Wow! This has been a while. You must be a busy beaver LOL. I'm not an expert but I think that is the retaining ring off of the back of the hand clutch. I don't know if this means the hand clutch needs rebuilt/replaced or if you can run it OK with everything assembled. Did you ever get this old girl going?
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hunter321
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no I never got it going
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hunter321
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the tractor will spin over with no spark plugs but it wont with them in is this the satrter
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 77909 |
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6 volt system has to be PERFECT to get it to go.... Could be starter , battery, cables, ground strap....... 12 volts is more forgiving and will spin it over better, thats why many convert over to 12v.
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hunter321
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could i just try a 12 vol tbattery?
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steve(ill)
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that would be worth a try to show that the starter is OK, and you have a weak battery or poor cables.
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BrianC
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I would not just throw in a 12 volt battery. It would be bad for your coil, and charging system and lights. We need a bunch of photos, you should post some if you can. We could see how stock it is and what not. I would be willing to speak to you on the phone or Private Messenger (a feature of the forum). I sent you a PM. |
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Dusty MI
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5053 |
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Try an 8 volt battery. It will work fine in place of a 6 volt, and nothing else will not have to be changed.
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hunter321
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ill try a 12 volt with every thing unhooked to see if the starter will turn over the engine with the spar kplugs and tell you what happens
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 77909 |
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Lift the hot wire off the coil and the generator... Crank with 12 v....If that works, you can set the 6 volt battery below the tractor and run a jumper wire from it, to the coil, and ground the other side of the battery to the frame... then crank with 12 volts, and use the 6v to check for spark / ignition.
Edited by steve(ill) - 21 Oct 2021 at 12:33pm |
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hunter321
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i borrowed a 12 volt coil from a different tractor and tried your guys idea and it almost started but i realized i didnt have gas going to the spark plugs
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hunter321
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i got the tractor started and running for 10 min
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steve(ill)
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SUCCESS !!!
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FloydKS
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: S E Kansas Points: 7907 |
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You get a YEA for getting another step closer...
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Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21515 |
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GREAT...how about coming here and pulling the starter outta my forklift ? The one with the flat tire, sitting outside ???? yeah, the silence is deafening........ I'm glad someone is winning though
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
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hunter321
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the tractor now runs and drives
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steve(ill)
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Congratulations Hunter....... How about a paragraph on what you did in the end to get it going ??
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Thad in AR.
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9276 |
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Good job Hunter. Keep at it. You’ve learned a lot already.
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1939Dodge
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persistence pays off!
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John m
Silver Level Joined: 11 Apr 2020 Location: Wetmore, Mi Points: 275 |
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Good job Hunter. And a good job to you guys for helping him all through this. Getting it running does wonders for a young guys self esteem. Geez, you guys are teachers. Thumbs up
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hunter321
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WF owner
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Nice !!! Some day, you will look back at your journal and appreciate all the effort it took to keep track of everything and the time you spent with your Dad working on this.
Good luck. I wish you lived close by so I could help.
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steve(ill)
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Now THATS the way to TELL A STORY !! Great Job Hunter !!
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hunter321
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how can i upload vidios
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steve(ill)
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assume you are using a computer, not phone,..
---click on "post reply" button on the lower left side of screen below the last post ---click on the "green tree" button in the new box that opens up --click on the " choose file " button on the left lower side of the next box that opens --find the photo you want on your computer you want to upload and select it --------- photo can in on desktop, or in a seperate file ---click on the "upload" button below the "choose button ---look at the size of the photo... make it about 800 x 600 pixels ---click on the "OK" button on the lower right side to install that photo. ---click on the post button to post your photo
Edited by steve(ill) - 10 Mar 2022 at 9:28am |
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hunter321
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the tractor doesnt want to turn over with 6 volt and i dont want to covert it to 12
what do i do,
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21515 |
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replace the battery cables with new ones, big, fat , like welding cables NOT skimpy '12V car' cables charge/check 6v battery ( be sure acid level is good !) I 'cheated', went pseudo12 volt.
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steve(ill)
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there really is not much to CONVERT... With a 12 volt battery, the system is happy. You should replace a 12 volt coil... point / plug/ etc are all OK..... Dont worry about the generator... it may go ahead and charge the 12 volt battery... or lift the wire and forget it. Use it to adjust belt tension only... Put the battery on a little bench charger every 10 times you start it....... Dont need lights..
Old 6 volt systems can have weak starters, weak batteries, bad battery cables, not well grounded... EVERYTHING has to be PERFECT for a 6 v system.... as you have proven.
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