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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21577 |
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Well, since you asked..... I'd like sound deadening drywall for my loft walls, use sound deadening Roxul insulation in both walls and floor cavities. Prefer walls to be neutral paint colours, er, colors..., small kitchenette, water cooler,bar fridge, microwave, coffee pot, ceiling fan, remote controlled, and a nice 42-46" LCD screen with Wifi/internet access. comfy couch/pullout bed... a coffee table with back issues of OAN would be nice as well..... thank you Jay
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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tadams, Folks,
Yes the OSB prices went out of sight. Hope its on the way down. $6.00 per sheet? Not sure what thickness that was? When I bought the 5/8 thick OSB for the shop exterior and roof sheeting it was $18.75 and was closer to $40 last time I checked. with 180 sheets of it required. It would have impacted the budget dramatically! I agree that dry wall might be a good cost effective choice also. I could live with dry wall on the walls. Maybe still have the white steel liner panels vertical on the lower 3 feet? Regards, Chris |
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 9688 |
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Have a friend that built a new shop and was planning on using osb till the price went from $6.00 per sheet to $29.00 and the last I taled to him he said he was going to use drywall for his because of the cost.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks,
Made a list of materials (wood) and called local lumber yard. They had it ready when I got there, good quality, and it was noted that the prices of lumber is trending downward! Good news for anyone building! So I got materials to try to frame out the rest of the Z1 area. Also secured the materials for the stairs, threads and risers. I got 2 x 12 for the tread. Most stairs I have used 2 x 10 for the step. Will see how this looks and feels. I would like to get these built. May have to put the stairs in without the walls being done? Would then need to finish the walls around the stairs if I put them in place now. Probably the right thing to do is have the walls finished first. But I would like to be able to get up in the loft to do some work too. Do you guys like using drywall in a building like this? My brother has a similar shop with dry wall and it looks real good. So you see I am still open on the final wall coverings. Comments always welcome! Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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John, Folks,
Sorry too many pipes! Those are two 1 hp Aqua Spa hot tub blowers (the black units) which deliver air to the evaporator. One is for air into the steam away system. it bubbles the cold sap up and over hot steam tubes which allows a small portion water to be removed from the sap. The steam away is a energy improvement system on top of the rear pan. The second blower pushes air into the fire box through a series of tubes and nozzles which are above the fire in the fire box and about 6 inches below the pan. This helps burn the gases, improving combustion and gets some additional heat out of the wood fire. Also reduces stack temperature too. Regards, Chris
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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Okay, that didn't work. The two pipes coming out of the wall just above the window is what I was asking about?
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Reindeer
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Calgary, AB Points: 650 |
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Looking good. Awesome to have a closed in warm space to tackle all the projects. You're going to enjoy the shop a bunch!
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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John, Folks,
Thanks! The two 10 inch stacks are for steam to escape from the boiling operation. About 120 gallons of water per hour is boiled 98% of the steam goes up those stacks. The larger 12 inch is the smoke stack. Worked on walls inside today as the weather was windy and rainy at 50 degrees. This is a view down at the wall base plate. I finally got around to fastening it down with several tapcons. Drilled about 1.5 inches into the concrete. Started the wall for the bathroom: I think I may move the large sink back out into Z1. Just seems like the thing to do! Would then place a small stainless sink in the bathroom: Jogged the wall and framed in the stair well: Keeping it tractor related: Regards, Chris
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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Hey Chris coming along nice. The walls are looking good. Won't be long and your buddies will be over playing cards and drinking some beers! I noticed the two little stacks coming out of the back wall of the sugar shack. I figured they are for the steam to escape but wasn't sure since I never been around a sugar operation. How do they work?
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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SD, Stroken, Folks,
Thanks again for the kind words. I do get overwhelmed sometimes, and I know it will never be done too! I missed the hole in the wall, Sorry:) Off to help with harvesting corn at the local Tractor show grounds today. I was lured in with a free breakfast in a hour! A team of members will be working on picking corn with antique equipment today with various machines, maybe some orange too? I will try to take some pictures and post them later too. The boys went deer hunting with me for a hour last night. It was fun to have them get excited about hunting. Regards, Chris
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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looking real good Chris...i'm sure you are enjoying it alot now even tho it's not finished yet. a little hint: it never will be finished, you'll always find something to change or add. anyways....as for this being a "different type" forum...that's what makes it so great! just like the Allis tractors and equipment! anything where any Allis's can call home is welcome too! look at all the help this forum has been to hundreds of folks! it's sure helped me thru the years! keep on coming with your pics and descriptions...we love them!
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Strokendiesel002
Silver Level Joined: 04 Apr 2019 Location: 53158 Points: 252 |
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Failed attempt to be funny about a hole in the wall down low. Win some, lose some :)
Very cool pics of the littles. Thanks for sharing your progress and talking out/ explaining your choices. Makes for very good reading and with the suggestions and opinions from others on here I personally learn a lot and enjoy that. It's also encouraging to see others with 10+ projects going at the same time and checking off the list one by one. It's easy to get overwhelmed and lost. You sir are an inspiration and excellent story teller. I very much look forward to logging in and seeing what you've shared. Till next time! |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Strokendiesel002,
You might have to ask me again. Not sure I understand your question. This internal framing is very similar to the ecterior walls. And is probably way over kill. My plan for the interior is to use the steel liner panels about 3 foot high at the bottom, and then place vertical wood boards maybe 6-8 inches wide above that. That plan may change too. I just did a quick rough calculation on the cost of heating. So if it I was to use 300 gallons of propane to heat the shop with spray foam and est 20% more fuel to heat with fiberglass. That would be another 60 gallons of fuel per year estimated. Est $2.00 cost per gallon or $120 per year. Additional cost of foam above fiberglass R19 walls and R38 ceiling approx $5000. 5000 / 120 = 40 year payback. Humm does that sound correct? Fiberglass installers are going to stop and review the shop again next week. Lead time about 2 weeks. So I may need to get moving on the walls and rough wiring with Nic. Also the bathroom keeps getting larger. Not a bad thing. Want to make it easy to move around in too: This framing is kind of a pain. but should make it easier when I am able to finish the walls. Great grandsons Rhett and Cooper on their WD. Was their GG Grandfathers. Temp in the shop today. Not really too bad at this time. Lots of hot coffee and keep moving! Regards, Chris |
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Strokendiesel002
Silver Level Joined: 04 Apr 2019 Location: 53158 Points: 252 |
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I very much like the vertical boards along the base. I imagine this is to prevent accidental air flow from occuring between z1 and z2 down the road, as well as the wall coverings up off the concrete?
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Stroken, John, Folks,
Another weird shot of the jib and trolley. I plan to get that chain falls home to hang on here too. Other unrelated items: Monday the gutter guys (Gutters Choice from Springboro PA) Awesome team! completed the work on the sugarhouse re- pitching the side gutters to the front. and then inmstalling leaf guard! So this has been something I wanted to do for many years as part of the infrastructure project now was the time. I had mentioned picking up leaves too. Well we have a long ditch out front that catches all the leaves in the neighborhood. So the D17 helped do clean up! I had a heaping trailer load of leaves! Regards, Chris Edited by Sugarmaker - 13 Nov 2020 at 5:47pm |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks,
I try to include a little orange here and there in this thread to attempt to keep it somewhat related to what this forum is about Allis tractors. Some days I feel the forum is becoming a different type of forum and it doesn't interest me as much, Sorry just my opinion. On the shop. My next steps are walls roughed in so that grandson Nic can do the rough wiring of the building. I have been walking over 2x4s laid on the floor for weeks. Its time to get moving! My west walk door came out in a odd spot for the inside wall. I needed to jog the wall for the door to open. Next is the 9 foot wide x 8 foot high opening for another internal garage door. This would allow large project to be moved into Z1. This would be a R12 door with a row of windows too. On a side note my door guys were here yesterday and they delivered and programmed all 4 of my new 4 button remotes for the OH doors! Sweet! They also will be back to disassemble the spring/ opener systems on three doors and move them down a inch. This should allow just enough clearance to get ceiling panels in place on the rafters with minimal interference. Morale of the story here is that you should have the eave height approx 2 foot higher than the door height! They also measured for they 9 x 8 door. Awesome! Very impressed with Northeast Ohio Overhead Door Company and would recommend them to anyone! A walk door will be framed about where the ladder is setting to go from Z1 out into Z2. Big debate where this should go. Trying to keep it central in the whole building. I am now considering placing two interior windows in the long wall between Z1 and Z2. These would be approximately in line with the windows in the exterior walls too. At similar height. Allowing light in and cross ventilation. Also Jim stopped in to visit and made the suggestion that a window air conditioner could go into one of those also. Interesting concept! Its going to get cold and the building is dried in, which I am very glad of. Just wont have any heat this winter. Will keep stumbling along. Thanks for checking in on me! Hope things are good in Orange land! Forgot to mention I am not a builder! Dont be too critical on my unconventional wall building techniques. It may not be much for looks but should be hell for stout! Regards, Chris
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Strokendiesel002
Silver Level Joined: 04 Apr 2019 Location: 53158 Points: 252 |
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Man did that job and trolley turn out sharp!
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JohnColo
Orange Level Joined: 03 Apr 2020 Location: Niwot, CO Points: 1258 |
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Is everything OK, Chris? You haven't posted for several days, I'm getting worried, not to mention going through no building info withdrawal!
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks
The Yale chain falls will come home soon to be tried on this trolley. Quick total on the Jib project. About $600. Lots of free stuff help greatly on this! Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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double post sorry
Edited by Sugarmaker - 08 Nov 2020 at 11:36am |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Thanks, But dont get too close! The dirt/ mud was a mess. Just ryying to get it a little better and taking advantage of the sunshine and dry days to maybe get it looking better through the winter months too. Today is national leaf raking competition and I am in the finals! The ditch out front has been raked, now I just need to spend some time picking them up and placing them on the garden for compost! Which means they may blow into the ditch again!:( Think I may use a D17 and trailer for that project. The 17 hasn't done much this summer it needs some run time. Gutter guys will be here in the morning to re-route the gutters on the sugarhouse and move the down spouts to this end of the building so the water from the roof goes to the road ditch. Just another infrastructure item that I have wanted to do for 20 years! Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Jim, Just the old disc that you helped me set up as a weird 3 point with a JD 272 mower mounting system! Still working! Thanks! The cultipacker, well I may have a picture of that somewhere? I just drag it around behind. Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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SD, You are correct on that And I knew I had just enough stuff to fill it too. So I didnt want to make it any to large! Good eye you have there! Regards, Chris
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Strokendiesel002
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Looking great as always!
It's amazing all you get done, and how nice it all looks, every time! |
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hd1937
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That is one slick 3pt set up on that cultipacker😉😉😉
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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looks like the building is full already!
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Sugarmaker
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Allis folks,
Used the Ford and old single disc to level some of the dirt around the building. Also hooked the cultipacker to the back and this helped level out some of the rough spots too. Regards, Chris |
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Sugarmaker
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Folks,
The trolley should come together tomorrow. Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Folks,
The jib crane trolley: Had to replace another bad zerk. Put a nut on, clamped the old zerk in vice and turned the nut off, pulling the pressed in zerk. I wanted to be able to have grease in these! Will get a final coat of rattle can PO. Now to get the spacing set up (3 inch wide beam) So maybe 3.25? Then complete the assembly. Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Folks,
Internet died at our place for a day or two after the rains. Yes almost went into withdrawals! I designed the building using Google sketch up. I have worked in design for several years on drafting boards and CAD systems. I agree that a good detailed design helps a lot. But one of the things that you dont get on paper is the feel of the building and or the physical layout or the work flow or the walking paths. So Having a general Idea in my head I have been living/ working in and around the fake walls on the floor for several weeks now. This approach allows me to be a little more artistic and creative and also allows folks that come in the building to critique the layout too. I appreciate your input and your thoughts are right on the money. I have also been procrastinating a little and working on some actual projects in the shop. Including: -Changed the tires/ rims to winter ones on the truck. Was sooooo nice to have a smooth floor to work on! - First welding project. Had several spot welds on a air box for the FL40 (another thread) - Also working on the FL40 (forklift project to see if I can get it running on LPG?) - Another load of 2B spread out with the Jubilee and back blade to get us out of the mud! - Working on cleaning and painting of the rolling trolley for the jib crane. The tag cleaned up nice it is a 2000 lb trolley! Perfect! It may be PO#1 also! They will looks better! Just in clean up mode in these shots. Replaced a broken push in zerk. Large 4 inch wheels, should roll good. Paint stripper is the gooey look. - Brought the D17 home and packed it in the shop too.Sorry not a great picture. - Worked on the TD6 hydraulic line issue. Just starting that repair project. Will not be pretty or fun. Messy, dirty, greasy, oily, ugly., heavy, lots of grunting, expensive, Perfect! Thanks for checking on me! Hope things are good in Orange land! Regards, Chris Edited by Sugarmaker - 06 Nov 2020 at 8:07am |
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