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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 5:28pm |
Dad has what "should" be 5000 bushels in the bin due to the depth(24x 6 1/2 ring) but this season the TW is only 54.5 TW and 14.5% moisture after a sample was ran through the local elevators tester. What is the "realistic" bushels in the bin? Thanks
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DiyDave
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I never been real good at 'rithmatic, figger it out for yourself...
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klinemar
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Is the bin flat,core pulled down or a peak? With a peak oon a 24' diameter bin it should be 4.8 feet giving you 6,888 bushels.Without the peak 6,304bu.With the core pulled down 5,721.8.I used my Grain Calculator app on my phone and the figures in your post if your rings are standard 32".
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FREEDGUY
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Thanks, that's my dilemma, MATH!! LOL!!!
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klinemar
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I always didn't like math but have found tools to help me get the answers! They wouldn't let me take typing,too many girls in the class and I might be disruptive!
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FREEDGUY
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Completely flat(stirator) but is only 5.5 rings deep out of a 7 ring bin but the stirator takes a 1/2ring away from the "total" capacity. Yes, 32" rings; Thank you
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klinemar
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My App calculates 5,320.9 bushels.
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shameless dude
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I was told by an elevator dude to take the width times the height times the width again to get the bu amount for a grain bin. I had a round bin, and used that formula and after filling the bin and emptying it, it gave me the right bushels that the formula told me it should be.
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Brian F(IL)
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You won't know for sure until you haul it to the elevator and weigh it. Then you'll know. Until then use whoever's guess is the one you like best. But be careful on making any big decisions until you KNOW what you have to sell.
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Tbone95
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Well, that's the volume of a box. Minus some volume because it's a round can, and not a box, but add some volume if it's fresh off the auger and in a peak, it's probably a reasonably close guess. No consideration for test weight or moisture. All of those things take it right down to the accurate penny. Depends on what sort of estimate one wants I suppose.
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FREEDGUY
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That's the issue, I am "pretty" sure how many "ring heights" of bushels in the bin, but the TW has me concerned as far as contracted bushels (cash $$, NOT "forwarded"). 4 years ago dad got burnt by being 680 bushels short of what we "thought" we had in the bin , after he committed to "X" $/bushel, the market jumped 40 cents . Thanks guys, I understand this is a "loaded" question. Have a safe planting season !!
Edited by FREEDGUY - 31 Mar 2020 at 5:12pm |
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klinemar
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To properly measure a bin many factors are involved. Test wieght,moisture pack factor. Weighing over scales is the ultimate measurement.Michigan Elevators that buy and sell grain have to be measured and account for grain stored on hand by State Grain Inspectors under law. I remember two local Elevators back in the 70's that contracted grain and sold the grain under storage to save their Ass when the contracts were called in and they did not have grain to cover. One patron was our local State Senator who quickly got the law passed so the State would help bail the farmers out including our local Senator! Part of the law was Grain Inspection to see how much was stored.
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klinemar
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Here is a Grain Bin Worksheet. You still need the Test Weight, Moisture and Pack Factors. These are what is established by USDA. Elevators use their own moisture and test weight factors that you see on your load ticket and settlement sheet.
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chaskaduo
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chaskaduo
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Hot Link the original workable web page.
This may help. The Grain Bin/Bushel Calculator can easily be used to determine the number of bushels being stored in a bin. You will need to know: circumference (if bin is round), length and width (if bin is rectangular), grain height, grain peak height and actual test weight of the commodity.
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FREEDGUY
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Thank you
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Tbone95
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FREEDGUY, your test weight of 54.5 is not too far off from 56 per bushel “standard”. All other factors being ok, you should be able to get a close estimate.
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DanWi
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Set a price on 4000 bushel and take your chances on whatever is left, in the case from 4 years ago you would have came out ahead on the extra that you didn't have priced. The only other way is if you are a regular customer at an elevator and you are hauling in the grain and you tell them you are getting to the bottom of the bin they may give you an open contract to set the price on the last load whatever the bushels are.
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Ray54
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As dry as this country is grain moisture was never talked about until people started putting the garden hose in into the augur when loading grain. But they where just trying to cut down how much dust was blowing.
The west coast always prices grain by the hundred weight with a standard weight per bushel, of course with a discount for being to lite. And never a bonus for heavier. And you can beat your last dollar the elevator operators know which bin has the heavy stuff. And know just how much to mix with the lite stuff, to end up with the trade standard.
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