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cabinhollow
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Posted: 06 Mar 2020 at 9:36am |
Just got in from the barn.
71 ewes, 122 lambs, have lost 6. 1 ewe in labor now. Still have 104 ewes that could lamb. 6 sets of triples. 4 of the lambs lost have come from them. |
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cabinhollow
Orange Level Joined: 24 Mar 2018 Location: SEKY Points: 327 |
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I quit traveling to shear 3 years ago. A few people still bring theirs to my farm to be sheared. Will still shear 250+ sheep this year.
Over to 40+ years that I have sheared, my total is close to 150,000 animals. I have been helping a local guy learn how. He is up to 1000+ head now and just getting the hang of it. But, we are in SEKY, and that would be to far to travel. |
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Rhoadesy_65
Bronze Level Joined: 28 Jul 2019 Location: Versailles, OH Points: 147 |
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Hopefully you can find someone. The grandparents hire a guy to do theirs but I dont think he would travel out your way, he seems pretty busy most the time with his actual job. Not many people doing that anymore, which is one of the reason we have been moving toward dorpers that shed their wool, and katadin that have hair.
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Anybody know of someone shearing sheep in South Central Iowa. Our man has retired.
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tadams(OH)
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Yes, 3 month 3 weeks and 3 days for pigs
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Rhoadesy_65
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I think you are right about the 5 times in two years for hogs lol. I was thinking its not quite three times a year. I left the hog farm almost a year ago to start my internship/coop. they have 2000 sows and "ship" about 1000 13-15lb weaned pigs a week.
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cabinhollow
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2 lambing in one year can be done, but it is hard on the ewes.
3 lambing in two years works better and the ewes do ok. When we had hogs, the sows had 5 litters in 2 years. Late 60's to early 80's, 100+ sows. |
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Rhoadesy_65
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This is the same kind of system we use in the hog gestation barns, I always thought it would be neat to try to apply it to sheep. The only thing i would be worried about it is for sows we could get litters 3 times in two years, I think that would be too hard on ewes. Maybe make it so you have 12 groups one for each month, or 6 groups for once every two so the last group is weaned before next group lambs in theory. This would take a lot more management to pull off. Probably not something i could pull off on my own while working full time as engineer.
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cabinhollow
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Kiwi, Here we have farmers doing something like that. They decide what week they want to lamb, then count back 145 days. They then use the estrus inserts on the ewes, based on that date. The rams are left in for 7 days and at 6-8 weeks the ewes are check to see if they were breed. The ones not, are sold at that time. They are getting a 9-10 day lambing season per group of ewes and may have a group of ewes lambing each month. |
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Kiwi
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If you put the rams out with the ewes in the weekend and take them out during the week the ewes only lamb in the weekend it works in the Southern Hemisphere (not)
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cabinhollow
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That just the way it works with the rams when they start.
Has more to do with how the ewes cycle. Some rams are more night time workers, some will go all day and night ans some will not breed if anyone is around. 29 people, including kids showed up this weekend. I did not have time to get more pictures, I'll take some in the next day or so. Looking at rain for the next three days, they have been waiting until then to lamb. |
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Unit3
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Just the way you worded that, "the rams work 6 days, then took a day off". Is that because you pulled them out or do they know something we missed? There is a breed of bull that doesn't do much in the daylight hours. They do their loving at night when it is cooler. Conserve energy. Cute little buggers them lambs is.
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cabinhollow
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No lambs in the last 36 hours. The rams work 6 days, then took a day off.
19 ewes 32 lambs = 168% Have not loss one yet. 13 twins, 6 singles. |
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john(MI)
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I remember two of my older brothers working for a guy that raised sheep. Woulda been around 1960. They complained constantly about how stinky those damn sheep were. I never worked for the guy so I was happy! I don't know if they still are stinky, I don't care if they are, as long as I can keep having lamb chops I'll be happy!!
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Unit3
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That is one proud looking mommy. Her name is Mary, and she just had two little lambs. Ahhhhhh! Thank you for the pictures! Thank you to all of the livestock folks.
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145-147 days for most. Some breeds can go as short as 137 days and some as long as 154 days. If a lamb is over 4 days preemie it will not survive. I mark down 140 days after I put the rams in and 150 days after I take them out. This year my first lamb was at 144 days. 8-15 days after they can start, is when I have the largest number born. The most I have had in one day is 18, but from the looks of the ewes now, they are going to top that one day total, the first of the week. |
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FREEDGUY
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Is the gestation period of sheep similar to hogs ?
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FREEDGUY
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cabinhollow
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Had time to take some pictures.
Lambs more lambs |
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TimCNY
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SILENCE!!!
(...well, y'all ARE talking "lambs," so.... ) |
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I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250!
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cabinhollow
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My sheep have long,fine,color wool.
The top fleeces sell for $100 each, with most selling for $40-$50 each. On a animal unit bases, $1500+ gross per year is possible. USDA packaged, from the farm lamb, is selling for app $10-$15/lbs here. Some breeds of sheep will breed/lamb just about anytime of the year. Most are seasonal breeds, breed in the fall, lamb Jan to April. 6 new lambs this AM. Up to 24 lambs from 14 ewes at this time. 171% Have not had any triples yet. |
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Rhoadesy_65
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Wool is barely worth what it costs to pay someone to shear them. Around here there are two types of sheep owners: Show animals and "commercial" meat production. We are one of the few doing it for meat in the area. We have started going toward breeds that dont need sheared like dorpers that shed their wool and Katadin that are hair sheep. Grandpa is still running sheep that need sheared though and we pay a guy to shear and we catch them as they come out of his trailer to trim hooves. One of my least favorite jobs because you get covered in lanolin and its always hot and humid. We have them lamb in the winter while they are inside that way by spring the ewes can go back to pasture and the weaned lambs are fattened to sell.
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Kiwi
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hi all when i left school i worked on a farm we use to per lamb shear all the ewe 1 it would stop them from getting cast .2 when it got cold the sheep would head for shelter and take the lambs with them. all the stock were outside all year round and we lambed about 1100 .now days the wool is hardly worth takeing off the sheep lamb meat is about $7.00 kg nzd which is still good money
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FREEDGUY
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I know nothing about sheep/lambs, but is this the only time of year that they "pop" little ones out? Is there more money in the wool or the meat? There are maybe 3 guys within 80 miles that raise sheep, and they probably only have 10-15 ewes. Thanks
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DougG
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We are developing such a problem with eagles around here,, 2 kids disappeared and pretty sure it was an eagle , a few days later one flew over about 30 foot off the ground, first time I ve seen one around that close
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Rhoadesy_65
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We follow the same philosophy when it comes to ewes with twins, if she wont take care of the lambs its time for her to go. With everyone having fulltime day jobs we cant be bottle feeding twins. Triples or quads maybe but not for twins
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cabinhollow
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My lambing % runs 180%-185% most years. All my ewes are twin/triplet born and about 10% of them will have triplets. |
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Rhoadesy_65
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Yes twins with sheep twins should be common. Usually we only keep ewe lambs from sets of twins, triples, ect. The chances they will have twins or triples themselves is higher. Over time you will build a strong flock. With triplets or more it is common to supplement the mothers milk with formula.
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cabinhollow
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Somerset KY.
I sheared my ewes the first part of Jan. Not to make them stay in the barn, they are lockout now, temp this AM was 29. Some of them have wool 7"-8" long at shearing. My flock is manage so that 85% lamb during the day. I do not go to the barn at night. I do not raise any as bottle babies. If the ewe can not take care of the lambs, she is culled and the lamb is sold to the first person that walks into the barn. No lambs this AM, they are waiting for it to start raining. |
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jaybmiller
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question.. are twins really common ?
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