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Tbone95
Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11388 |
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fixer1958
Orange Level Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2435 |
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Part of how I judge road conditions is how many are in the median or off the embankment. Part of my drive is 20 miles of I-35 through 3 counties and all rural except for the last couple. My highest ditch count was 37 in that 20 miles.. Have had a couple of times there would be a pileup on down the road, at a stand still with ice on the road and just slide off onto the shoulder and not even moving..just sideways. I found an app on my phone that it is pretty accurate for road conditions.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21465 |
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re: ...And the most rude drivers in the world NO !! They're all here in Ontario around Hamilton , especially the 'big rig boys'. Google 'Burlington Skyway Bridge accident'.....you'll see what I mean.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4677 |
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Had a boss back in the day wanted us to come in no matter how bad it was. One time it took 2 hours to get to work, normally 15 minutes. Did not get paid for that time .Shop was behind his house so he didn't have to commute. When finally at work he says too dangerous to take the work van out . Clean the side walks and driveway until the streets are clear . Why did I risk an accident coming in for this. Next time I stayed home until the roads were passable. Boss called complaining, Come get me was my answer,,,,
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4346 |
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Thankfully no snow generally but at 20 degrees you can get black ice. And the most rude drivers in the world. Any time of the day some idiot on their phone, or making up time on the road cause they started late.
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TimCNY
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2014 Location: Upstate NY Points: 1551 |
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Another VERY important but too often overlooked matter is SNOW TIRES. The WORST brand of snow tire still beats the BEST "all-season." And frankly, all 4 (or however many tires on your vehicle) tires should be snows.
Another point, and this is from every tire dealer I know: New tires/best tread tires - GO ON THE REAR, regardless if 2WD, 4WD, front wheel, rear wheel, doesn't matter, BECAUSE it's the rear-end of the car needing the better traction to help prevent the rear from swinging out on curves. No matter the season. But especially in winter, I'd say. Getting going is one thing, keeping control is quite another. Yes, so very much more and not possible to cover it all but we're trying, aren't we! |
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DanWi
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1705 |
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Wifes factory job has a very good perfect attendance bonus and banquet with prize. It really encourages people to show up for work but it puts you in a tight spot when the road conditions are bad, they do have a few personal days they can use but you always like to keep them in the bank for a REAL emergency. We live less then 10 miles from her job and she goes to work at 4:30 am so if the roads are bad I get up and take her with the 4wd pickup even if I have to drive 25 or 30mph the whole way at least I know shes safe. The other day I took her to work with her car the road was plowed but snow packed and slippery I was driving over 50mph and had 2 people pass going 60.
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18704 |
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I agree with ya Sonny, just not worth the bother, and it IS the IDIOTS on the road.
I used to wish I could have a 3 to 5 ton truck, 4wd, with pipe welded all the way around. I'd have a ball till they caught up with me. The problem with all these SUV's and the people driving them now a days is that yeah, you can go better than with 2wd, but you still CAN'T STOP any better. They don't think of that. |
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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It is a little more likely to happen on slick roads. But I suppose you have those same idiots out there on the roads all year long. Especially now with the "gotta TEXT" people out there trying to get killed, and kill.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3445 |
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Tim, I worked for a surveyor for a short time, (my uncle) he blew out a knee, needed help. This started in December, lasted through March. I learned a ton. Like you say, trying to get a 'shot' on a monument in a busy highway is a little hairy. Also learned that when it's 0 degrees, a gravel road is effectively concrete! Thankfully he had a small jackhammer to get those monuments recovered.
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2204 |
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IF it's that bad----I don't go. --- canceled doc's appointments a few times due to bad roads! ---I got 4-wd, so I am not worried bout me --Its all the idiots on the road that bothers me!
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TimCNY
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2014 Location: Upstate NY Points: 1551 |
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When I was a surveyor, the drive to work and back home wasn't the main threat... it was driving to and from the jobsite(s), and having to deal with traffic if we had highway work to do. We generally avoided any roadway work when there was snow/ice, but even (maybe especially?) in great weather, drivers were the main threat for hazardous conditions.
For us, general rule of thumb was snowfall RATE (over 2"/hour, stay put) or temperature (25 below zero was the "no-go" threshold, that was for whichever was worse, actual temps or windchill). Unfortunately, many times the conditions at the office were rarely representative of the field conditions at the jobsite; the office was in the city and was ALWAYS the better place to be lol. But it worked out ok, there was always plenty of records and research work to be done along with the field work. But no, there was never a policy for "too bad to come in to work." Mainly it was just about going into the field or not. Edited by TimCNY - 14 Feb 2020 at 10:18am |
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3445 |
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This is a BIG peeve of mine! Work for me is a 31.4 mile drive, this time of year the roads are a mess quite often.Thanks to the draconian attendance policy of my employer and my hatred of wasting vacation time, I generally brave it. I do think about it and how stupid it would be to die for one days pay. Really wish these places 'got' that!
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21465 |
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If the roads icy or miserable, I don't go, plain and simple,life is too short !! If the boss is upset, tell him to swing by , pick you up, and drive you to the jobsite !!! I'll lay odds he won't show up !
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chaskaduo
Orange Level Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5203 |
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I drive as little as possible period, and always leave for my destination early. Some how I learned, never enough time to get there but always time to die. Yep a far cry from my 20's. I cancel out a lot now a days as we have a lot of slippery weather in the winter. I'm also retired so that really helps.
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fixer1958
Orange Level Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2435 |
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How much precedence do you put on getting there knowing you could end up in a ditch or getting wiped out or injured by someone that doesn't think slick roads apply to them? I have been driving that same route for about 30 years now. Know every potential bad stop there is. 35 miles one way. When I was, younger balls to the wall didn't care if it took 3 hours..and it has several times. Now not so much. Employer knows the situation and he knows I will make an effort but I'm not putting my hide on the line just for a day's work. I've seen and heard of many fatalities in these cases just to put in a day's work. 3 in the last 2 weeks within 5 miles of me. The last one was grandpa taking his 14 year old grandson to school in a neighboring town. 20 mile distance. It was slick, SUV slide and crossed the center line and hit them head on. Killed them both. Happened at about 6:45 am. School starts at 7:30. I will usually give it 15 miles to see how things are. 10 miles to the Interstate. Where do you draw the line at? |
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