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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19504 |
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A Rotary Gleaner can be set-up to harvest ANY crop. Some equipment is added or changed, but they can be adapted to many different crops.
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allisbred
Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Location: Hanover Pa Points: 1011 |
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I have to say we have zero dock at the elevator for trash or cracked grain in beans and corn with a late model 4420. It does have electric float and is very nice to use with the flex head. The only waste I can complain about is barley . I see a little come back in the beans. Maybe a rotary next but I’d like to see a gleaner first working.
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victoryallis
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2857 |
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We ran red clover with a R52 even have a small seed screen for it. |
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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victoryallis
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2857 |
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Our Gleaner dealer is 2.5 hours away I don’t bat an eye at that. Rotary Gleaners are way way simpler than red or green. Never had one but I wouldn’t be afraid of a N5 even. Buddy grew up on a 3300 now has a R50. Learn from our misery make sure it has a radiator. |
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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PeteMN
Bronze Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hutchinson, MN Points: 192 |
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Called a dealer for a LH spiral snap roll point today (black cornhead) and he said it's no longer available. Those machines are getting old enough that you need to think about parts availability. The other option is to pick up a salvage unit for spare parts. Luckily my neighbor had some salvage row units that I was able to get the parts off.
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ranger43
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Jun 2019 Location: Huntingburg Points: 147 |
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We never cared for the gleaner snapping roll design....or the entire head for that matter..I remember 35 years ago a spiral point for our A238 cost $55 from the AC dealer. My dad about flipped his lid. When we went to the deere heads we could buy the hole straight snapping rolls for the for the same price. |
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Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
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Get the spirals rebuilt by a metal, welding shop. Spirals for my hugger from AGCO this year were $101 each and then they gave me a 10% discount so about 10 bucks off that. A spiral after market, not Deere, for a 1290 Deere head is about the same price.
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3197 |
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As with any brand, it's the experienced knowledge of how to properly setup the machine. Thanks to Tbran & DrAllis' gleaner pointers, their advice has assisted me numerous times over the years. To that end, I have operated other brands with comparable results. But, I prefer the gleaner for simplicity.
Yes, the biggest drawback is the distance to my AGCO dealers. But that being said, I must admit all my AGCO closest dealers will usually direct ship me parts which saves my travel time/expense to dealership, dealership inventory, & simplifies shipping. So when something breaks on my gleaner, I look up my part number in gleaner parts book, call that part number into AGCO dealer parts person, & if its available - get it direct shipped to me from Batavia or maybe another dealer's inventory. So, one phone call & it's maybe on its way via UPS. Thats a terrific value.
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studeranch
Bronze Level Joined: 30 Sep 2019 Location: Montana Points: 10 |
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too bad you are so far from Montana, We have a neighbor with a 6620 that he can't get anyone to buy or even trade.
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Trinity45
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Mar 2014 Location: Kentucky Points: 1588 |
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In my area the green ones in corn tend to run too much out the back especially when they are run too fast in heavy corn.
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Tbone95
Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11388 |
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Maybe so. But you haven’t seen my fields. I drive all around, see fields like you’re talking about, and see all colors of equipment parked nearby. It’s 99% the operator. Just as your dig on Deeres, there’s digs on Gleaners. I don’t dig on them, I’ve never owned or operated one. Nearest dealer is god knows where. Equally, I’m not in love with my combine. I bought it because it was a fair price, runs fantastic, was close enough to drive home, and the dealership is close by. And there’s 1000’s of them, so used parts are often attainable. From all my reading and research, I’ve formed my own opinion, and yes, it’s just an opinion. In comparison to other similar size machines from the era, until rather recently even, a Deere had more horsepower. You could even say a bit too much? You can make your settings then push it and overload it pretty easily and spit grain out the back, while the engine isn’t pulled down yet. Say what you want, I’m proud of my clean fields and clean samples. It can be done and I’ve learned to do it. I have a rock trap as well. Never have damaged something from a rock. Maybe there’s something to that but I’ve not had a problem. To the OP, a 6620 has a hydro, a little nicer setup than the 4420’s ground drive. |
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ranger43
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Jun 2019 Location: Huntingburg Points: 147 |
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The old deere design was a one piece design no separate spiral and to me that was so simple and effective. |
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dawntreader74
Orange Level Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Manteno Points: 1758 |
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a guy can get a 7700 or 7720 low hours bigger combine an not spend a lot of money' there is a lot of them out there. they don't throw your grain out the back when there set right. also will run a 8 row head. stay with the jd.
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Michael V (NM)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2335 |
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I'm not gonna knock the deere,, they can do the work,,just takes an "operator", I ran a 7700 on wheat harvest back in the middle 70's,,, done a good job, and I was used to running the CII that my Dad had set perfectly.....the only bad about the Gleaner I can think of,, is the belts,,, most of the bearings, chains, sprockets can be found at your local machine shop, now stuff like cylinder bars and concaves, raddle chains, and such will need to be ordered,,,, places like Abiline Machine, shoupe, etc. will have them,, you will know when them big things need to be ordered....also, EASY TO WORK ON...
all the main drive stuff is under the seat on a JD... not fun to change the drive belts...
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victoryallis
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2857 |
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Mayer’s have a nice looking R42 on Facebook
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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clarkscreek
Bronze Level Access Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: kentucky Points: 137 |
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I was planning on spending 5000 or less, but lets say I did pony up the money for an r42 how easy to adapt my 443 and 213 Deere heads with sprocket type hookups?
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MACK
Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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I would buy a 218 or 918 to put on it, then just drive it with drive shafts.
Don't think you can drive fast enough with a 13' head to keep it full. I'm with you on the JD head. MACK |
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clarkscreek
Bronze Level Access Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: kentucky Points: 137 |
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The reason for the 13 ft is for the narrow lanes and gates. Any bigger and I'll spend more time taking the head on and off than cutting.
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chuck linn
Silver Level Joined: 13 Dec 2012 Location: ky Points: 78 |
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Best part of a deere is the time to repair it or having seat fall on your head while changing belts. Have used 6600 and 7700 both very hard to work on gleaner is much easier to work on and does a better job
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 7980 |
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PeteMN I just priced left & rt spirals and extensions for black head. Numbers have changed from parts book but no mention of NLA. Usually if priced they are available. Wonder how good your parts guy is. Took mine a bit to find it all.
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