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    Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 4:27pm
I am new to the forum.  I recently purchased an allis chalmers b tractor that needs work.  The water pump was leaking so i ordered a new one.  I have also purchased manuals on this tractor for servicing an maintenance.  I have been through books i got all all over the internet and for the life of me can't find torque spec for reinstalling water pump.  Does anyone know what it is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mdm1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 4:46pm
Welcome to a great forum. I just put one on a B and just tightened it up. I'm sure someone will know if there is a torque spec. Post some pics of your tractor. Where in WI are you?
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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You can look up the torque spec for your bolt size on the internet, you also need to know the SAE grade also. Probably grade 5.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ranse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2019 at 5:02pm
I put one on my B. I didn't realize there was a torque spec. I did just did as mdm1 did, just tighten it. It works and don't leak, I figure it's good to go.
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I am in st croix falls wisconsin. thanks for the feed back.  for the people that installed the pump did you use rtv sealant like on a vehicle for the gasket?
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I used no sealant at all. Just the gasket that came with the pump. I thought about using something, but I haven't had a problem yet.
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I think the manual says shellac. Yep just looked.

Edited by chaskaduo - 22 Sep 2019 at 5:28pm
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I used just the gasket as well. No problem.
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nobody had a torque wrench in 1940 ... Most mechanics are just familiar with "tight" for a given size bolt.. If your not as experienced, then I would use a grade 5 torque for that size bolt and call it good.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Page B-C-15 in the shop manual I have says "tighten securely" for the water pump mounting bolts.

http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf

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Use anti-seize on the bolt threads just in case you or somebody else ever needs to work on it again.   
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If you need parts I have several of these tractors apart and on the shelf. Just parted another last week. Located in Elk River MN. lselkriver@gmail.com
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