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    Posted: 16 May 2019 at 10:09pm
I may be displaying my ignorance, but here goes.
Industrial equipment is farm tractor based and
construction machinery is built from the ground up
as construction machinery. What are your thoughts?
Thanks a lot,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnCO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 11:30pm
Sounds about right although I also consider industrial equipment mostly tractors used in a factory or on the grounds to pull carts, winch stuff and mow around the buildings.
Kind of splitting straws, I guess.
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I think of 'construction' equipment as 'things' that are used to build stuff like roads, building etc. 'Industrial' equipment  more so as 'maintenance' machinery.
Though if they all are painted yellow, well, then they ain't for farming, wel, cept MM tractors !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveKamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 9:34pm
It's not so much of where it 'comes from'... it's where it was 'marketed to'.

See... when a manufacturer of equipment is making components, they start by making them for a specific product, and then as time goes on, they find additional markets for that product, they reutilize components as much as possible, so that higher production of similar parts yields economies of scale.  Sometimes, that means altering an existing part so that it's more robust in the duty of a more challenging environment.  For example... let's say you take a tractor chassis and driveline, and utilize it in an all-terrain forklift for construction, and also as an industrial or aircraft tug.  In the latter forms, a little more strength in axle shafts may be necessary.  Instead of designing an improved axle shaft, and using it for the industrial/construction markets, they implement it in all THREE, and eliminate (actually just supercede) the prior part.  This greatly reduces the cost of production and parts inventory maintenance, at an otherwise insignificant materials and production cost increase.

The construction equipment 'division' are essentially sales and engineering staff that focus on construction industry.  The industrial division focuses on industrial customer base, and ag is farmers.  How the equipment is produced, is basically irrelevant, as long as it's good, and economical.
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When Allis-Chalmers first introduced the yellow version of the tractors and equipment in 1961 they called it the "Utility Line". Within a year the brochures changed to the "Industrial Line".  Backhoes, small dozers, and smaller loaders were sold by "Industrial" dealers. The larger equipment was "Construction " dealers. 
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'Utillity' sounds light duty, 'Industrial' sounds TOUGH !!
Though I'd raher buy a 'utility' A-C than an 'industrial' JD Big smile
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Industrial usually means heavier built. My industrial IH 464 compared to the farm version of the 464 has a heavier front end,much better steering,reverser lever on the steering column,stronger hydraulics.
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Dean:  Does this mean your working on a new book for industrial and construction machinery?  - I hope so. 

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Yes , i have sent the new book to the printer. The new book contains lots of pages pf construction and industrial equipment
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Fantastic!  Lookin' forward to 'where-to-buy' announcement!
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Roger Amato is working on a new book of Allis-Chalmers construction equipment. I have supplied him a number of scans of AC equipment brochures that he didn't have. He has written several other books. Roger is involved in the HCEA. I have seen a partial draft. Hopefully it will be published this year.
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