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CTuckerNWIL 
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Posted: 21 Mar 2018 at 7:53am |
Mike, next time we get together, I'll give you a quick lesson 
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2018 at 7:53am |
I spent years developing my technique for sharpening drill bits. The important thing I learned from that was, DON'T let others know you can do a good job of it. Once co-workers know you can sharpen a bit , they decide they don't need to spend the time to learn and hand them to you to do it for them 
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 20 Mar 2018 at 11:58pm |
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Sharpening a drill bit requires that you understand all the angles involved, and can get your hand position proper for all of them, make the motion to replicate those angle transitions, and do so without overheating the metal and ruining the temper.
This actually goes for ANY kind of cutting device. If you learn how to cut a variety of lathe tool bits from raw HSS blanks, you can sharpen ANYTHING.
One of the most important things to know about sharpening blades, is that the biggest mistake, is trying to take off too much metal. The sharp edge is just that- an edge. I just address my knives and tools lightly with a diamond hone a wee bit, and they stay plenty sharp, even through hard use.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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shameless dude
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Posted: 20 Mar 2018 at 11:19pm |
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I could never re sharpen drill bits either, the old lady.....oooops....I mean the loving wife bought me a drill doctor for my birthday once, and I never could make that thing work right either! I just go buy new cobalt bits now.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2018 at 10:58pm |
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Joe
I would be interested in hearing how to sharpen drill bits.
Mike
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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DiyDave
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Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 6:13pm |
About 15-20 years ago, I was lookin at one on the snap on truck, I think they wanted like $40-50 bucks for. Never bought it, good thing, cause I later found one, in a lot I bought at an auction, you know, the throw away lot that nobody outbids yer dollar bid!
Any it looks like this, I think the name was like uncle bucks sharpener...
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DMiller
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Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 3:41pm |
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Best bet is a Knife makers Jeweler's Rouge belt sharpener, minimal heat, sets a Smooth edge and a long term edge. We have a local gal that sharpens ANYTHING metal, put a scary set of edges on some knives for us!! Used the noted leather belt sharpener.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 3:39pm |
A guy at the shop couldn't sharpen a drill bit to cut, so he had the company pay for a Drill Doctor. It doesn't work at all, no way no how. I've done drill bits by hand since my tool making days back in 1974, so i have had a lot of practice. My problem with dills nowadays is the ones under an 1/8th inch. Can't see em so good anymore  I've sharpened my hunting knives and pocket knives for years with a set of stones and could always shave hair with them when done. Wife always seemed to have the dullest knives in the county though. Just the last few years I use a small sandstone , slow turning wheel to touch them up before I put the diamond dusted little steel plate to them. I've looked at videos of home built stropping wheels and just might have to build me one. Since I've been in the kitchen more the last few years, I take time to touch up a few of the better quality knives now and then. Used to only do the ones I used to cut up my deer.
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desertjoe
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Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 9:27am |
Well,,a little feedback on the kitchen knife sharpeners,, checked out several of the suggestions offered and,,,and,,,true to form,,I done a Shameless,,,,snicker, snicker,,, I liked the RADA like ole Ron told us aboot, so,,I ordered one plus a small "Crock Stick" with the twin ceramic sticks. You talk bout somebody goin to town with putting a sharp on some kitchen knives,,,I'm it,,!!  Thet Rada will put a sharp on a wore out knife before quick can get ready,,,!!! I'm impressed,,,,may have to go to the pawn shop and buy some more knives, I'm likin this so much,,,, Many thanks for all this new found knowledge,,,
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john(MI)
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Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 3:16pm |
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Put the bit in a drill press and hold the file against the bit as it spins!
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 8:11am |
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Norton builds an excellent stone in various grits. So you can get a rough edge and then to the finer grit and it'll be sharp. If you prefer a diamond stone, I can't think of the name right now, but there's a company in either North or South Dakota that make diamond stones that are absolutely the best. Get their finest grit stone in pocket size and just slide your knife across it real light. Try to keep the same angle both ways and go slow. This will help you develop repeatable angles. If you get a wire edge on you knife it's not bad, just tip your knife up a hair and do one side at a time. It will come right off, again light pressure. It will be scary sharp. If you happen to have a extra hard knife don't be afraid to use a course stone on it to get your edge. Then finish with a fine stone. Hope this helps. Gotta get to the doctor. Leon
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Armand(AZ)
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Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 7:31am |
One of the guys in our woodshop in ShowLow brought in his WorkSharp like Dave has and we went into the custom knife shaping business for the ladies in the park. I was impressed with it. I bought a NIB Drill Doctor at a garage sale, I must be dense, but I can not make that thing sharpen a bit!!!
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 6:16am |
 shameless dude wrote:
now when I buy new bits I buy cobalt ones |
I have tried every type of bit out there, but my "self sharpened" ones will cut the best. The cobalt ones break if you look at em cross eyed. Like Joe says, don't throw away your bucket of dull bits. Darrel
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Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 5:38am |
shameless dude wrote:
I have a bucket of dull bits.... |
UMMmmm,,,don't you dare throw them away,,,!! You wanna trade bucket of wore out drill bits for bucket of ,,,,,,,,beer,,??? 
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 9:01pm |
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now when I buy new bits I buy cobalt ones
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 9:00pm |
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I have a bucket of dull bits....
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 8:39pm |
""I can pretty much take any cheap drill bit and make it dig. darrel "" Ten four,,Darrel,,,that right there is the secret to getin em sharp,,I always try em on my palm by gently turnin em and see if they "dig" into skin with just light pressure. You can also tell when one of the flutes is digging more than the other,,, I do cheat some as I have a drill angle gauge that I use to check the true angle for the bigger thicker jobs,,,
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 5:07pm |
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Now sharpening drill bits, I am pretty handy at that. Don't know if I am as good at it as Joe is, but I can make em chew through metal pretty good. Learned it mostly own; partly from a friend of mine. This friend of mine couldn't sharpen one to save his ass, but could explain to me how it was supposed to be done. I took the information and ran with it. I can pretty much take any cheap drill bit and make it dig. darrel
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 5:00pm |
When I quit workin at the local Chevy Dealer, One of the mechanics gave me an unused Drill Dr,,he never could learn to use it so he gave it to me,,,I worked and worked on it but I could not get some good sharps on any drill bits,,then my wife gave me one of those for Christmas,,so to keep the peace, I just put it up in the garage,,NIB,,,, Then I joined a machinist forum and I learned how to freehand sharpening drill bits from a tutorial he wrote up,,,and,,,,and,, I'll bet a case of Black Label,,,I can put a sharp on a drill bit better than any store bought Drill Dr,,and that is the troot,,,!! It was really quite easy and did not take that long to learn his method. If anybody is interested, I will contact him and copy & Paste his write-up so ya'll can read it and try it
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 3:00pm |
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I also have the same problem as Ray.
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 2:57pm |
Knife is easy, a lot faster with a diamond stone than the natural ones.
Now drill bits are what I got trouble getting right free hand. I wore out a drill doctor outfit. Got a new one that dose bigger bits when Sears was closing out locally. Been waiting for a rainy day,guess I will just have to get at it.
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Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 12:57pm |
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Take one of those large size paint stirring sticks. I think they are for 5 gal buckets. Glue a piece of leather to it. Why do you think old fashioned barbers used a strop? I was told that if you got a good knife it should never touch metal.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 9:12pm |
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JC....no....cuz when yer cutting something thick, and you put pressure on them, they snap off, sometimes your knuckles hit where the snapped off blade is.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 9:06pm |
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i use what Dave H (NE) does. Gets me by
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 7:23pm |
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I was lucky several years ago one of my regular customers at the tire shop bought up a pickup load of knives from a slaughter house. They considered them worn out. They are sharp, we have never needed to sharpen them. Probably had them close to 15 years. Old gal uses them daily. Only mistake I made was not buying more of them for the rest of the family.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 7:00pm |
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anyone use the snap off blades? when the point or blade gets dull, just break it off and got new cutting edge.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 6:44pm |
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I too like Darrel and Stan, use a razor blade cutter everywhere.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 3:40pm |
Wife got me a WORK SHARP Knife & Tool sharpener. cost about 90 bucks works great and is fast. www.worksharptools.com
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 3:06pm |
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Go to your local Amish/Mennonite store, or lots of local flea markets and you will find Rada knife products made in the USA. They offer a great little knife sharpener with two high carbon hardened stainless steel sharpening wheels, and only cost between 5 & 10 dollars each. I have several and use them all the time. 100 % lifetime money back guarantee.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 2:27pm |
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I never could sharpen a knife good so I give them to BIL to sharpen. When he is done they are sharp
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