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micmoose 
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 Topic: Allis Chalmers 712 Shuttle
Posted: 05 Feb 2018 at 6:46pm |
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My dad gave me a 712s model garden tractor. Where he got it, no one knows. Missing the deck, but I got it running and has lots of power to tote around a wagon or a small disc, but then it quit running. Not getting fuel. Fuel line comes out of the tank and goes down to some kind of a block on the side of the engine (12 hp Kohler), then back up to the carburetor.
Does anyone know what that block looking thing is?
Fuel pump?
I hate to spend $80 on a manual if it is going to cost a lot to get it fixed.
Just want to get it running, and if it runs, then I'll spend money.
Thought I would try this forum.
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Dgrader
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Posted: 06 Feb 2018 at 10:04am |
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Yeah, that block is the fuel pump. Are you gettin fuel to the carb? If you are carb needs cleaned. Usually when I get one thats sat a long time, first thing I do is clean the carb. Most of the time that works and gets em runnin.
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micmoose
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Posted: 06 Feb 2018 at 7:27pm |
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Well, that's what I thought. I bought a new carb for about 20 bucks off ebay or amazon. It is the exact replacement. Going to see if that will do it. It also has a plastic fuel tank! Should be easy to clean.
Edited by micmoose - 06 Feb 2018 at 7:29pm
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micmoose
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Posted: 19 Mar 2018 at 6:26pm |
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I got me a new carburetor, but it is missing the linkage ball stud. The lever on the new one has a hole where you can bolt one on. The hole in the lever is 1/8 inch. I can find all sorts of ball studs, but no one will give the size of the thread in terms I understand. Wrote eBay sellers and not a peep. Anyone have an idea on how to get one, or rig the linkage?
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Gary
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Posted: 20 Mar 2018 at 6:37am |
This Video may help you. If not, at least you probably will have a laugh. Gary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZGWRJ66b4
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Mikez
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Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 11:18pm |
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Yea that is a funny video
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Hubnut
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Posted: 14 Apr 2018 at 5:45am |
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Thanks for the tip. That guy is a trip.
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micmoose
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Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 6:45pm |
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Anyone know where the points are on the Kohler 12hp 712S garden tractor? Got it spinning over and the neg. side of the coil is not grounding. Don't know if I have a magneto or points. Has a condenser hanging off the coil side.
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micmoose
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Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 6:46pm |
me thinks I'll have to use this video to fix the fuel pump to if I can get spark and it still won't start. Great find. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqZGWRJ66b4
Edited by micmoose - 24 Apr 2018 at 6:47pm
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Gary
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Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 7:03pm |
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micmoose
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Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 8:53pm |
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Thanks. got what i needed to know. That guy has a whole bunch of videos. makes me fee like need buck teeth to work on one.
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micmoose
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Posted: 26 Apr 2018 at 11:01pm |
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Found the points, removed the cover, and filed the points with a fingernail file. Engine fired up on the second go round. Probably needs a fuel pump, but the carb was full of fuel from gravity. Thanks for the videos. Learnt something.
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