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Corbincdc 
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 7:41pm |
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I am look at buying a D-17. It looks in great shape besides the rear wheel. It has too small holes and holds air for about 2 hours. Two questions: Is this a difficult thing to fix. I her you can weld a patch? Second anyone know here I can get a new/Used one near Ames, Iowa.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 10:07pm |
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If the 'two small holes' are in the rim, that can be solved, however, if that tire has a tube (and I believe it does) then the 2-hour leak you're dealing with a bit more than a simple answer. First thing I'd do, is take a spray-bottle of soapy water and hose it down to see where the leak IS.
If it were ME buying it, I'd plan on airing it up, driving it on a trailer, and trailering it home, air it up to offload, then worry about the tire situation once it's home... that's the way I've done it in the past, anyway.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 10:32pm |
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Corbin, yes you can weld in a patch on the rims. I fixed both of mine on my D17D. You'll need to have the tire off the wheel to do it. Depending on how bad the rust is, I'm guessing the valve stem holes are rusted out, a simple piece of flat steel can be cut to fit. Mine were rusted really bad, but just around the stems. to get the proper bends, I cut a couple pieces out of another rim and then cut mine for the patch panels to fit. I've only met one guy in my lifetime that can cut with a torch and leave a smooth edge. I picked up a cutting wheel that fit in my Skill Saw. Worked very well making nice, straight cuts easily filled with weld. Once the patches were finished, I had both wheels sandblasted and painted inside and out. If you didn't know my rims were repaired, you'd never know they've been fixed. Since I didn't put fluid back in, the rims should out live me.
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E7018
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Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 7:07am |
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There are some combine wheels with the same bolt pattern. Deere 4400 and others? If the tires are beyond using, you will get usable tires going that route. The combine yards at Wall Lake or Audubon would have some.
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NICKMI
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Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 8:43pm |
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when I patched mine I removed tires from rim and cut out the bad parts with a plasma cutter and added a section from a junk rim and weldeld them back in worked real well tons cheaper than buying new good luck
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 9:13pm |
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Colfax tractor salvage should be a likely source. May take you half a day of hunting to find the rim though. They probably don't have that indexed.
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AcFordHawk
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Posted: 03 Jul 2010 at 10:53pm |
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Might check with Eiklenborg Salvage near Aplington. Have gotten new and used parts from them.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 11:53pm |
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Take a sack lunch if you go to Colfax... and probably a tape measure, and a GPS... so you can find your way back to the one you think is right...
For repairing, I've found that if the stem area is rotted (usually is), and I can weld in a piece of filler, I'll rotate the tire and tube, and drill a stem hole somewhere else along the rim, where there's plenty of thick metal, and avoid trying to drill it into your patched area.
I repaired one front on my D17, did exactly that. I found an old car wheel that had a perfect section to match. I torched a suitable chunk out of same size, then cut the ends clean with an abrasive chop saw, finished it with a 4" grinder... then used the segment to score a line into the rim around the hole. Used a plasma to rough cut the hole, then finished with a file, to make the insert piece fit. I tacked it together, made sure I liked it, then seamed it shut with the MIG.... built it up just a hair, cleaned it with a die grinder, then flapper wheel... can't see it at all.
Edited by DaveKamp - 04 Jul 2010 at 11:58pm
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leokmg
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 3:46am |
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I have a 1964 D-17 series 4 with a cab and also live in ames. The rim hole is an easy fix. Take the tire off tractor , or have a shop or co-op do it, then have the rubber removed and take the rim to Howe's welding in ames iowa. He has a rim he uses for parts and will remove the bad spot and weld in a new one. He fixed mine and it looks like new. Cost about $90? That's cheaper than finding a new rim. Good idea to paint your rim while its off. $10 worth of paint will help prevent more rusting. You should have power adjust rims on your d-17. If you have to buy a new rim it is $800 and a used one is $3-400 at a dealer. Check on ebay or the tractor salvage yard by desmoines. Will be alot cheaper there. The hole in your rim might be caused by leaking calcium chloride used for weight in your tire, if so get a new tube. There is an Allis dealership in Marshalltown. The allis D-17 is a great tractor! Call if you need help. mark 515-290-3056
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 5:05am |
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That's not nearly the challenge of welding a ships hull upside down under water that Jim Howe can do, but he does beautiful work for ordinary welding like a rim. An artist.
Gerald J.
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