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exroofer
Bronze Level Joined: 25 Jun 2010 Location: St. Catharines Points: 3 |
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Posted: 25 Jun 2010 at 12:48pm |
Hi all. I posted this question once years ago and never did recieve an answer one way or the other. For a lot of years when I was younger I competed in the local plowing matches using a Kvernelands plow. I wanted to know if Allis ever made a "match" special or competition type plow with snap coupler style hitch. We had one for our D-15 but it had only normal moldboard set up . The plow control with this style of 3 point hitch would have made for an awesome match plow, if there was such a thing. Anyone know if such ever existed?
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ToddSin NY
Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: Newark,NY Points: 1034 |
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I never heard of one.
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BrettPhillips
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Strasburg, VA Points: 808 |
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If you are referring to a SC plow that used European style bottoms, I have never seen or heard of such an animal. I agree that the control capabilities of the Traction Booster system would likely open some eyes at a European style plowing match. Would there be other differences in the plow design beside the style of bottoms? More quick-adjust features?
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exroofer
Bronze Level Joined: 25 Jun 2010 Location: St. Catharines Points: 3 |
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I always thought being able to twist the entire plow with the wheel combined with the two over size ground wheels our three furrow had ( one land wheel and one furrow wheel) would make things like opening splits and tough finishes a lot easier. But our allis plow had corn boards on it. Short with lots of twist. Great for breaking up clay soil (which we had) , but not so hot for laying a nice sod furrow. Always had lots of traction with the hitch point being so low and forward. A square cross shaft kit and it would make an awesome match plow. But I don't think any such animal ever existed. Never know though, some one might come up with a picture of one some day.
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Ploughman
Bronze Level Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Location: Harrisburg, SD Points: 5 |
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I picked up a manual on ebay for a model 62 and 63 plow with a frame thats adjustable from 10 to 12 inches. It also depicts the no. 340 bottom which looks like a european style bottom. That may be as close to a match plow as you're gonna get. I've thought about making a SC plow into a contest plow but it may not be worth the trouble. First it will do atrocious ins and outs unless you replace the beaming crank with something like a collapsible top link or a hydraulic cylinder. And, I would use a depth wheel and not use the traction booster to set depth to maintain a more constant depth, and this would just throw away the advantages of the SC/traction booster system. And, like you said, modifications to the cross shaft would have to be made also. That's what I know.
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norm [ind]
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: BOURBON,IN. Points: 667 |
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talk to some of the older so called blockman[as they were called] were only a few companies would compete because ac or massey would always win so the other ones would not compete in variuos contests was told this by a blockman picking corn ploughing to name a couple
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BrettPhillips
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Strasburg, VA Points: 808 |
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Please forgive my semi-ignorance of competitive plowing. I understand the reference to using a collapsible top link or a hydraulic cylinder to improve entrance and exit distance, but I am not sure of what is provided by the addition of a square cross shaft?
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exroofer
Bronze Level Joined: 25 Jun 2010 Location: St. Catharines Points: 3 |
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A square cross shaft set -up lets you use a hydraulic cylinder to adjust front furrow width on the fly and in small increments as opposed to rotating the cross shaft by lever . Normal cross shaft has offset ends, a sliding one has the ends on center. Probably be able to see a picture of it on a Kvernelands site or other make of competition plow.
Oh and thanks all for replies. I would agree with the poster who noted that a modified sysytem for plow pitch would be needed to keep ins and outs under control. |
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