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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18728 |
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Lookin GOOD Chris. That standing offer of a vacation here is always open!
I've got a BAD leaky manifold on one of my WD45s and I need to get at that this summer. Wish me luck on broken studs... |
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Les Royer
Orange Level Joined: 25 Dec 2014 Location: Carson, Iowa Points: 5593 |
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I've found that if the project is in the way where you gotta walk around it every day, it's gets done
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I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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I was lucky only one manifold stud broke off, and about 3 inches was still sticking out from the head. So a good solid grip with vise grips removed all of them. These studs had been replaced once at least when the manifold was changed.
This morning was spent running taps in all threaded holes I could find. Sure makes the assembly process go smoother. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Farmer1782178
Bronze Level Joined: 30 Dec 2014 Location: North Carolina Points: 29 |
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A stud extractor, some penetrating oil, and a lot of luck! My grandpa tried to remove mine one time and broke 4 of the studs off and had to drill them out and re tap the holes
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LSilseth
Bronze Level Joined: 29 Dec 2014 Location: NYA, MN Points: 196 |
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Do you have any hints on getting the manifold studs out?
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks,
Was able to get out and putter a little with the WD today. Below Zero here this morning. I found these pieces behind the cam gear. Looks like the governor weights came apart at one time and these were left in there for the ride. Really glad I found and removed these as they could have easily destroyed the engine by getting caught in the gears! I ran the tractor like that for several hours. and I have no idea how long they had been in there. Yikes! Crank shaft is grooved deep and will need a speedy sleeve and new seal. Removed the plate covering the push rods and cleaned up in there. Will get new gasket. Removed the exhaust manifold and one of the bolts broke in half. Was able to get all 6 out they will be replaced. Oil pan removed for new gaskets. (Don stand on you head and pretend I pulled the engine:)) I have not got up in there and measured the piston size yet. Assume std 4 inch bore on this tractor. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks,
I have fat fingers had this all in and hit shift and ctrl and blew me out . Anyway here are some pictures. Front rim without small holes. The other rim. Life is good now:) Maybe the next time I show this shift tower it will have some primer. Must have been 6 coats of PO on this. Hydraulic pump removed. I have the kit with all the seals and gaskets from Sandy Lake for this pump. Plus will change the two seals on the shafts of the draft control portion. One project today was to get the new brake springs from Sandy Lake installed. Used a length of small chain to bring the eye through the casting. OK its a start to the WD clean up. Some primer on the tractor! Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Jay, folks,
Yea I have to push myself a little more this time of year. Hey did anyone notice the two rims I was working on are not a matched pair. One had small holes in between each of the lug bolt holes. Well I really did not notice myself till they were done. So after painting yesterday, extra holes were added today to make them look a little closer. I have to go load some pictures. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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JayIN
Orange Level Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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I know what you guys mean about wintertime bla's. Been sitting in the house all day. I did go down in Kentucky Friday and pick up a 45 motor for parts.. Need to get busy.
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18728 |
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Chris, that is on the other side of the state. Alex09(WI) is close to there though.
Pretty soon it will be spring and I can work on mine! I HAVE to get brakes in the C first and then maybe get the D-17 going good. CAN'T WAIT! |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Ted I do need to come to Wisconsin, Never been there. But have a friend in Gillett. You any where close to there? And I am getting some 45 time aslo. A friend has 3 of them and I was helping him rework a starter last week. After working on the WD's I can now start to see the differences between those and the 45's. Was able to spend some quality time with the WD front rims today. Ready for tires next week. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18728 |
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Chris, it looks like it's coming along just fine. GREAT work and GREAT pics! These will help some others down the line!
I think you need some vacation ...Com on to Wisconsin and take a break on those WD's. I'll let you take on a WD45. How's that sound for a vacation? Oh, and after that... |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Front rims cleaned and primed, one has some silver applied. Just basic blocking and tackling as we make some small advances.
Was able to pull the HYD pump. Hope things are good out there in tractor land. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks,
Wire wheel work on one of the front rims and some primer on one side. Since I ordered the tires a few days ago these rims need to be finished soon. Ready to remove the hydraulic pump for a seal/gasket tune up. Cold night. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11570 |
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The weather turned pretty cold the past couple weeks round here Chris, so haven't even looked at the WF. She's blanketed over and tarped for now. I'm to much of a wiener to go outside and work. I'm in and out of the weather all day at work fixin' trucks and heavy equipment, so when I git' home at night, takes a while to git' the chill outta' these old bones! LOL! I have plenty of customer work to do in the basement shop, so I git' warmed up down there. This month is almost shot already, so one more tough cold weather, snowy month to go, and hopefully we'll be pullin' outta' this crap! Woo Hoo! Bring on Spring!!
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Steve,
Are you getting any weather to work on the WF? We have just normal Erie winter weather and I just haven't felt like doing much in the cold garage. Worked a little on the shift tower. welded up the slot in the shifter and whittled a new slot. On a side note I did add up most of the receipts from the last tractor and I am pretty sure you can buy them cheaper than you can build them! But it is a family tractor and I had the satisfaction in doing the project and learning a lot. Another thing is that unless you take these down to the last bolt and replace every seal and gasket they are going to leak a little:) Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11570 |
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Chris,
Love the pics! Yer' gettin' quite a bit done there. I've been following along with your progress also. Sometimes ya just havta' replace nuts, bolts and stuff. I don't trust 70 year old bolts, nuts n' lock washers, but that's just me. LOL! I think the new bolts just add to the detail. Adds to the budget to I might add!! LOL! Keep rollin' buddy she's taken shape. Best part about it is its your Dad's Tractor! That's very COOL! Steve@B&B |
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Luke, Email them to me. Would like to see your progress. Folks, Some shots not a lot of action at this time. Front rims get some attention with paint remover. These should clean up good and be solid rims. Minimal surface rust. Shift tower is off and will get the slop taken out of the shift lever ball slot where it engages the square pin. Transmission gears. some rounding of the teeth. Hand clutch collar in place. Just a couple before engine shots. prior to diss-assembly for gasket replacement. This WD project will take a back seat to making maple syrup soon. Regards, Chris Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Farmer1782178
Bronze Level Joined: 30 Dec 2014 Location: North Carolina Points: 29 |
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Your wd collection looks swell sugarmaker and i bleed orange and love it... Anyways is there a way i can email you the pictures or something because they are on my phone and i not sure/have the time to upload them.
-Luke |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Luke, The color scheme I used was Rustoleum Antique White in the centers and Rustoleum Silver metallic for the rim. Sounds like your addicted to the orange tractors also. Thanks for following along on the WD repair/restoration too. Do you have some progress pictures of the D15? Would love to see them. Funny you should mention front rims. That's part of what I have been working on for the last two days. I had a flat on the Working WD NFE and put on a tire/rim that was going to go to the current WD. So yesterday and today I took the tires and had them de-mounted. The worst rim had to be patched in the valve stem hole. about the size of a dollar bill folded in half. And the inside was very rusty. Fixed the hole, drilled a new one in another position and had the shop mount a used tire and tube on that rim to go on the working WD. At ths same time I had them demount the two good rims. I will start to clean those up and get ready for a new pair of Samson brand 6.00 x 16 gtri ribs that are on order. Like you said one more thing out of the way. Did spend some quality time on Dad's WD last night and put in the best used brass collar for the hand clutch added the new seal in the case for the pivot shaft, and got that back together. Pulled off the shifter tower for some tuning. Ordered a bunch of gaskets from Sandy Lake today. including oil pan gasket set and Hydraulic pump gaskets. That should keep me busy for a day or two. Regards, Chris Edited by Sugarmaker - 20 Jan 2015 at 11:32am |
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Farmer1782178
Bronze Level Joined: 30 Dec 2014 Location: North Carolina Points: 29 |
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Chris, firstly if like to say I have followed your post of your projects on here for over a year now(when I started on my grandpas wd) and love reading about your projects. Anyways since i finished the wd I just acquired a series 1 d15 and we have put a lot of work into getting it running right and fixing odds and ends but anyway I have one of the front rims off to fix the tube(thorn hole) and rust out around valve stem hole but while I had it off I figured I might as well go ahead and paint it so that whenever I decide to restore it that will be one less thing to do and it's easier to paint with tire off than on. I noticed you painted your rear centers cream and was wondering what kind/color it is and where you got it from. It looks really similar to the color I want . Keep up the hard work and hope all is good in allis land!
-Luke Edited by Farmer1782178 - 20 Jan 2015 at 7:36am |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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j.w.,
Never thought about oven cleaner. Great suggestion. Not sure I can do the pressure washer on this right now but will keep that in mind on future clean up projects! We don't expedite much any more. Did that for 40 years at work. Now we procrastinate, kick back, and enjoy it! Regards, Chris |
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j.w.freck
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |
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hey sugarmaker,yo may already know,but I am a firm beliver in east off oven cleaner to remove the grease and oil after removing all the accumulated top soil.hit it with a 3400 psi press washer.expidite expidite.....
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Hopefully Luke figures out the picture thing because he is doing a real nice job getting that tractor looking good!
Here are some shots as I make a little progress on Dad's WD. I have applied some of the paint remover and let it work while puttering with other stuff. Many coats of paint on this old girl. Removed the draft spring assembly. Had to use the torch to heat one of the areas of the transmission where a bolt would not come out. My Uncle had welded a stop on this instead of having the bent arm come up to the hydraulic pump controls, not sure why? Opened up the rear end and cleaned it out. Looks OK to me. Going to pull the shift tower off and check inside and then make a gasket for it. Also will tighten up the shifter slot and button at some point. The new draw bar has been disassembled and is ready for cleaning. Rear end cover had a big dent so that was gently worked back out and most of the paint removed. Left brake drum looks new. Right drum has some grooves where it had been worn by the rivets during its life. But the tractor has good brake shoes on both sides so I am not going to change the right brake drum. Removed some of the caked grease and crud from underside of the castings. All holes will be chased with a tap. Both rear chambers drained. Also cleaned both under sides of the final drive castings while down there. :) Regards, Chris |
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Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Pictures HAVE to be uploaded to some site on the internet to view here. You can upload to your file manager on this site, or to a photo hosting site like Photobucket.com or Picasa which is Googles pic sharing site. Then you link to the site where your pic is stored so we can see it. |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Folks,
Pulled the old draw-bar and brackets off the WD. I have a real nice draw-bar and cradle from the parts WD that will be cleaned up at some point and mounted on this tractor. This unit does not have a snap coupler. Not much else happening since the cold weather has set in. 12 degrees right now. Stay warm out there! Regards, Chris |
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Sugarmaker
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Luke,
You sure can I think my email is in my profile if not PM (private message) me and I can give it to you. Looking forward to seeing pictures of your tractor project. BTW posting pictures on here works best for me through photobucket. Regards, Chris Edited by Sugarmaker - 06 Feb 2015 at 9:13pm |
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LSilseth
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Sugarmaker can I send it you thou email? My Chromebook does not want to post pics on here.
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LSilseth
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LSilseth
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