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Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 7:54pm |
Folks, I have waited as long as possible to get started on this wood cutting project. The wood is for making syrup next spring. I typically cut 4 or 5 cord. 1 cord should make about 40 gallons of syrup. Last year we made 187 gallons of syrup during the season. The wood shed was taken over by small implements due to the fact that the evaporator room is in disarray. So moved out the David Bradley and the Ford LGT-100, and the Cub implements on their carts.
Hooked up the buzz rig to the Ford and sharpened the blade:
First load of slabs moved with the wide front WD.
Only 15 more loads to go! We will be ready come Feb 1 2020. Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 24 Sep 2019 at 7:56pm
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Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 8:19pm |
I wish I lived closer, I'd love to come help! Using as many toys as possible to complete a task is always my goal.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 8:53pm |
Ryan, I sure can relate to the toy thing. I put models together as a kid as fast as I got them. Played in the sandbox on my knees with tractors and wagons and farm sets. Guess I have not grown up yet. Dang I hope the wife lets me get that new WD toy too! As bad as the great grandkids wanting happy meals at McDonalds! Since I dont have a very big plot of land, I have to try to get some use out of all of them the best I can. Most are part of my hobby business. Trying to line up a job for the WD45 which feels a little left out. Might haul a load or two with it too. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 8:58pm |
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slabs from local saw mill ?
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Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 9:02pm |
Yes these come from a mill about 8 miles away. They process timber for pallets. Truck load of slab bundles was around $600 that should make about 6 cord of fire wood. Price may be up now? I used slabs from neighbors property till they went bad. There was 120 estimated cord in that pile. I figured we used 50 cord for syrup and heating homes. Regards, Chris |
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Posted: 24 Sep 2019 at 11:27pm |
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Gonna start on mine sometime in the next 2 weeks. Using D17 series 4 diesel, AC 200, several Chevy pickups a 3 point spliter. Dang it makes me tired just thinking about it.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2019 at 12:11am |
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I been cutting wood all year. I can cut about 3-5 minutes, then have to sit about 10-15 minutes. my back won't give in and cooperate. I cut all of it in firewood size, give a lot to the boy scouts for their camp fires. use the rest for trading material and my fire pit. can you post more picks as you are making the syrup? you have some good looking equipment there!
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Posted: 25 Sep 2019 at 7:57am |
Tom, Shamless. Folks, Here are some syrup pictures from last spring. Getting wood is good work. They say it heats you several times during the process!
Shamless, Better get that back fixed if possible!
Here is where the slab wood is headed for:
Cheryl and grandaughter Addi helping load the wood wagon:
Yea its a hot fire to boil 130 gallons of water per hour:
Hard to see but the syrup is about 1.5 inches deep in the pans:
Last spring as the wood shed was depleted:
syrup coming off the evaporator:
The 3 foot x 10 foot antique King arch and stainless pans, hoods and steamaway: The arch (base) is gutted right now and will get repairs and upgrades.
We use two hot tub blowers to supply air for the steamaway bubler, and the Air over fire forced draft system:
Collecting sap, using 5/16 tubing between the trees, into 40 gallon container, pumped to back of truck then up into 325 gallon poly tank. 30 of these stops to make on my route.
A full container of sap. Avg run might be 200 to 600 gallons of sap in one run. We may get 20 runs per season.
This was a very good run and the 30 taps were producing sap at a good stream that day.
unloading the sap (2% sugar water):
Back to current: Just some shots of the set up for cutting wood:
Got to get a Allis picture in there too:
Regards, Chris
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Posted: 25 Sep 2019 at 11:26pm |
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man! you have this down to a science! thanks for the pics! I sure enjoy everyones...well almost everyones pics on here! and the stories that go with them! I look forward to seeing more as time goes on! thanks again!
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Posted: 29 Sep 2019 at 10:30pm |
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Nice thread Chris. Nice pics and memories. Gonna show us pics of the girls and how much they grew the past year?
If you want to use the WD45, you'll need to get a BIG wagon for it to pull...
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Posted: 30 Sep 2019 at 8:19pm |
Ted, Folks, I had a helper today with the wood. Cooper our great grandson visited today. He likes the Allis tractors! He helped unload the trailer load from last night we had misty fog/ drizzel.
He is setting on his great great great uncles WD. Guess that officially makes me old! 
Toy tractor in his left hand:
And Maggie watching him.
Second load in the afternoon it was 75 and nice!
Looks like I will have just the right amount to fill the wood shed. Now to order another tri-axle load of slabs for spring of 2021.
Regards, Chris
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Posted: 30 Sep 2019 at 8:39pm |
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Great pics , thanks for posting . How far can you run a line . Tap the trees up the hill and just let it run down to the shack .
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Posted: 30 Sep 2019 at 9:26pm |
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Thanks for the pictures! You have a nice set up and some nice toys to use. Does the David Bradley have the original engine? I have a replacement engine on mine and can't use the hood. And I would love to find a cultivator to go on mine. It is way to hot to cut firewood here, I get too hot just thinking about it and have to take a break. Record highs in the upper 90's for the past two weeks and no rain.
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 5:37am |
 Sugarmaker wrote:
Yes these come from a mill about 8 miles away. They process timber for pallets. Truck load of slab bundles was around $600 that should make about 6 cord of fire wood. Price may be up now? |
Wow, guess we have cheap wood around here. I get hardwood, mostly Oak slab already cut and loaded on my dump trailer for $45 oer load which averages a cord. 1/3 Cord bundles of slab and edging were $8 last I knew. The pallet mills around here can hardly give slab away as it is cottonwood, sycamore, pine etc.
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 6:28am |
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I buy tie cut offs from a local company. They cost $30.00 a ton. We call ourselves micro hobbyists. We only tap 20 trees, do alot of work and give the syrup away to friends and family. Still do enjoy it though. Talked to a guy that was raking hay by us. He has the lines, vacuum pump, reverse osmosis etc. May go see his operation some time.
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 7:27am |
Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:
Great pics , thanks for posting . How far can you run a line . Tap the trees up the hill and just let it run down to the shack . |
Pat, That is the ideal set up to run tubing systems down hill to the sugarhouse. Of course I don't have any wood lot and no hill so we have to rent big hard maples along the roads. About a 35 mile trip and 30 stops to pick up sap. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 7:33am |
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Chris come over by me. You can tap all the maples you want. Could even run the lines down to the road.
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 7:34am |
Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:
Thanks for the pictures! You have a nice set up and some nice toys to use. Does the David Bradley have the original engine? I have a replacement engine on mine and can't use the hood. And I would love to find a cultivator to go on mine. It is way to hot to cut firewood here, I get too hot just thinking about it and have to take a break. Record highs in the upper 90's for the past two weeks and no rain. |
Hubert, The David Bradley has the original N engine. It set under a roof but was exposed to the west for 30 years. I walked by it many times while cleaning up. This was my wife's great grandfathers machine for his garden in Erie. She said I should bring it home. I continued to walk by it! I had one of these when I was about 12 and we traded it for my first pony. Next time I walked by I reached down and spun the output pulley. It was not froze up! It had me! I put about $30 into the carb, changed the oil, put on a new gas line and a throttle cable, plus one wheel cog, It runs really good!
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 7:37am |
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Chris come over by me. You can tap all the maples you want. Could even run the lines down to the road. |
mdm1, The hauling might be prohibitive! There is a lot of good syrup made in Wisconsin too! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 10:04pm |
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Neat! I grew up with a dad who I guess didn't believe in wood sheds... Even though a wood stove was our only heat source, we always just stored it at the edge of the yard/woods. I've been thinking I should build a little shed for the not-so-long winters we have here and my fireplace insert. It has to dry down a lot better with a roof over it.
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Posted: 01 Oct 2019 at 10:04pm |
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I've also always wanted a David Bradley. I have a small pile of Gravely walkbehind and some DB attachments, but I've yet to pick up a decent condition DB tractor.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 3:07am |
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our local mill here will bring all the slabs and trimmings you want for nuthin! mostly hard wood, I used to get a lot of it and grind it up for bedding for our critters, and sawed sum for firewood too. haven't got a load for awhile so I don't know now if they are charging for it or not.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 8:23am |
Folks, Shameless, Wood that is free is good! Thats a good idea chipping it for bedding! I don't seem to have any of that luck. I am the one that has to pay the full amount for about everything.
wJohn, I almost have to have dry wood for the maple syrup operation. The evaporator eats it up and if the wood is wet it extends the boil time considerably. The David Bradley is just another toy in the big sandbox. It is fully functional, but I use a Troy-built tiller in the garden. A unknown friend on another web site gave me the wheels as mine were rusted flat on the bottom!
Off to unload a trailer load of wood. I will have about three more loads to clean up the slabs and fill the wood shed.
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 02 Oct 2019 at 2:44pm
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 9:05am |
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wjohn, the DB's are out there on Ebay but pricey and too far away for me to go pick up.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 2:48pm |
Folks, Will have two more trailer loads of wood for the syrup production. Unloaded and cut a big load today with help from a fellow syrup maker.
Next project will be to refurbish the evaporator!
Regards, Chris
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 7:19pm |
Very nice equipment! I like my 8N, but if I had to start over, I would go with a Jubilee like my g-grandpa had. A little more power, and I think they look better.
Hubert...I have a DB like Chris's, and I couldn't use the original N engine either. Somehow the key way got wallowed out in the crank shaft, and I couldn't get the flywheel to stay held in the right spot. I still have the N, but I put a stripped down 3hp Harbor Freight engine in it. Runs off the stock gas tank. Did strip it down quite a bit, and it currently doesn't have much for an air breather, but the hood does close down on it. I removed the recoil start and put the rope cup on it, so it looks factory at first glance.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 8:55pm |
Creston, I have a 5hp B&S on mine with the carb mounted on the gas tank and the recoil start, still have the hood in the barn though. Mine is a worker. Put new wheels and tires on it at the start of summer ($$) then it broke the triplex chain in the transmission.  Got it going again and hope it lasts another 50+ years.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2019 at 3:34pm |
Ah yes, I almost put a Briggs with a carburetor setup like that on mine, but I really like the looks of the hood, so I used a different engine. Mine is kind of a working restoration...not too fancy of a paint job, but it looks nice. I use it in my garden for cultivation and harrowing some.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2019 at 7:31pm |
Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:
wjohn, the DB's are out there on Ebay but pricey and too far away for me to go pick up. |
Plenty of them still around here. I see some listed way high but they never sell. Lots of $30-$100 non-runners at auctions but I'm picky about the engine and transmission I want if I do buy one, and the Gravelys do way more so I'm in no rush.
I wonder if they weren't as popular in the southeast?
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Posted: 03 Oct 2019 at 7:45pm |
Folks, These DB's are a cute post war machine. I think the design is aircraft like (hood)! They are very reasonable to collect. Prices rage here as mentioned $30 to about $300 max. Even restored ones don't bring a lot of money. This original N type engine just has a very sweet sound! I would like to get a sulky for it and cruise around at tractor shows. Some shots when I drug this David Bradley unit home:
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Oct 2019 at 8:00am
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