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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7334 |
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Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 10:07pm |
Which tractors had Landhandler decals applied at the factory? Does anyone know which years they were used?
I know they started with the 220. Wondering if all other models came with that designation as well. Thanks in advance! |
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8391 |
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One-Nineties has the Landhandler decal as well.
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Mikez
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185 and 175 to. Don't hold me to it but I thought it was the earlier years, then they tryed to came up with cheaper tractors and lost the land handler label. I forget how they worded it though.
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7334 |
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Those were CropHustlers. I don't think I've ever seen one of these as a Landhandler. |
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8386 |
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Oh yes duh I'm sorry got messed up. Ill take the foot out of my mouth
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Tenn allis
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Was there any difference between the crop hustlers and the land handlers we once had a 185 crop hustler was very pleased with it
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Calvin Schmidt
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4525 |
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My original paint 1969 220 (52nd built) does not have the Landhandler decal
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DarrylinWA
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo Texas Points: 1898 |
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My 69 220 that was original also (32nd built) had Landhandler on it. Black dash also. Was original paint. Dennis Polk has a picture on it trying to sell it on tractorhouse right now. Interesting subject and another unknown sounds like.
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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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ryan(IN)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Bluffton,IN Points: 764 |
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Our 71 190 XTIII has a landhandler decal and I'm fairly certain it's original paint.
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1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62 |
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tbran
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3295 |
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just to clarify, as to 'origional' many dealers ordered and applied decals that AC did or did not apply. At dealer meetings there were some grumblings as AC being 'chincy' in leaving off racing stripes and crop hustlers and landhandlers. AC sold a bunch to dealers who were innovative in dressing up the stripped down units. A set of detail decals made the units with only the AC and model decals installed look much more sellable to the sales force. Thus some tractors of the same year model to the customer may appear different.
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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
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WD45Diesel57
Orange Level Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Location: Varna, Ont. Can Points: 646 |
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The 180's are landhandlers aswell
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1-B's, 2-C, 2-CA's,2-WF, 1-WC,1-G, 3-WD's, 2-WD45, 1-RC, 1-D17 Diesel, 1-D14, 2-D15,1-D17 row crop,1-D19 gas and All Crop 40,60,66,72,90 and 100
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33824 |
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Sales brochure were labeled land handlers and then the were sales brochures that were labeled 'crop hustlers' and of course the first brochures had no desination other than one-eighty and later 180... etc...
So I believe these tractors came from the factory as labeled without, with Land Hndler , then later as Crop Hustler ( a cheapened version with only single headlight instead of dual...) . |
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4915 |
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My brother and I both have 1968 series II 190XT's, they both have Landhandler decals. This issue confused me to as I read in a AC book that the Landhandler name was given when the 220 went into production, I believe 2 years later. They also named the magazine Landhandler because it was so well liked. When I sandblasted the paint/decal off, the appearance of the decal seamed to be shadowed in the metal as if it was truly an origional decal to the tractor. Same thing with the tank decals. The pictures in the book also show a series II (although never decaled series II) with the Landhandler decal.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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AC720Man
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i went to get the book from my dad. It states that the 220 production run started on march 17th, 1969. "The two-twenty became the first of the Landhandler tractors." So I am guessing maybe as someone posted earlier that decals were made available to older 190XT owners so they could add them. But there is clearly a 190XT with the Landhandler decal in the book. Also a series III with the decal. It also mentions the 220 was in a product change log in September 20th, 1967 to replace the D-21 by 1969. So the Landhandler name had been around since that time I assume. Who knows, but my Landhandler decal will be going on the new paint in less than a month no matter what.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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AC720Man
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It also says the Crop Hustlers were the 175 and 185 tractors. Only diesels were built.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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ac fleet
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My 190xtdlll has the decals on it and it looks to be the original paint.----Buddies 200 also has the decal on it, --- so were they added, or were they factory applied? I sure don't know! thanks; ac fleet
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tbran
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the early XT had decals that read Console Control on the side sheets not landhandler.
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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
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Unit3
Orange Level Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5532 |
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This was talked about before a few years back. Turns out that the Crop Hustler and Land Handler decals were applied at the dealerships. Some one on here has a 190ish model with both decals on it. Look at it from one side and it is a Crop Hustler. Go to the other side and it is a Land Handler.
Edited by Unit3 - 04 Mar 2017 at 9:59pm |
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skateboarder68
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Have a 1973 185 crop hustler with dual headlights in each fender. I thought the crop hustler designation had something to do with pulling implements faster in the field. Pretty sure I read that in an AC book, anybody else recall??
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Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240.
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Travis2766
Silver Level Joined: 26 Aug 2015 Location: Amherst, Wi Points: 408 |
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170, 180 and 190 were landhandler. I'm not sure about the 200 or the 210 but the 220 and 440 were also.
Edited by Travis2766 - 05 Mar 2017 at 7:57am |
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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.
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JPG AUSTRALIA
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Both of the one ninetys we have had were series 3, neither had the landhandler decal on them.
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AC720Man
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According to the book only 190XT, 200,210,220 were Landhandler tractors. Doess't say anything about, 170,180 tractors. 175,185 were the Crop Hustler tractors. The Console Control was indeed on the early 190, but appears starting in 1968 with the 190XT that was replaced by the Landhandler decal. Only going by the book.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Calvin Schmidt
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Norm Swinford's book states that the Landhandler program started with the 220. I checked my original brochures and the 220 is called the Landhandler tractor but no where in the brochure is there a picture of a 220 with the Landhandler decal Brochures are dated 1970 and 1972. In Norm's book the 220 FWD picture appears to have the Landhander decal. The 1971 210 brochure has Landhandler decals on every picture. I did not see the Landhandler decal in any other brochure (OneNinety or 200). The 200 sales brochure calls it the Landhandler tractor as well. It is possible that the photos used in both 220 brochures were stock early photos of possible prototype tractors.
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4912 |
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From my memory of seeing tractors, and reading the bible, the landhandler name came in 70, so the first 220's would not have had it unless added later, by owner, or dealer. Even if a decal was added after it was a few years old, today, it would look original. The "console control" was on the series 1 one-nineties bar grill tractors. That goes along with the arrow style hood side decals. "Crop-Hustler" 175/185 was not a low cost option, but a high speed alternative to owners of 170/180 tractors. Slightly more power than the 170/180 so you could pull your same equipment faster, rather than having to buy a bunch of new equipment to go along with a new and bigger tractor. Remember, the 175/185 were ALL diesels until the 170 gas was discontinued, so then the 175 gas became available.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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AC720Man
Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4915 |
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I agree with you Ed, the decals would look factory if added at a later date by the dealer or customer. Most likely the case. It's a shame AC didn't keep better records or documentation to support our theories.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Beirnesy
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I pretty much agree with Calvin and Ed :
I think AC slapped the "Landhandler" decal on all there cream striped 100, 200 series diesel tractors in 70,71,72. I have never seen the 200 model with a "Land handler" decal the 190XT III yes. I believe the 175,185 with black stipes where "Crop Hustlers" Here is a e-bay brochure for the 170 and promotes the "Landhandler" name I think the 426 powered AC's should have been the only ones with the "LandHandler" designation, but I guess its was all about marketing. Edited by Beirnesy - 05 Mar 2017 at 7:05pm |
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1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716
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AC720Man
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A lot of good info today on this topic. It has been some interesting posts. Thanks to all.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Joe(OH)
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Norms book says that there were 512 to 220s produced in 1970. It also states that the Landhandler decals started in May of 1970. The first 220 front wheel assist was 2223 in June of 1970. Using those numbers to do the math my guess is the decals started around serial number 2150.
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ILGLEANER
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What this discussion proves. Is no one here really knows. What ever a guy wants to think. But no proof of anything.
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DSeries4
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Yep! Lots of theories and assumptions, but no proof unfortunately. |
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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