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 Topic: Another addition, 1955 WD45!
Posted: 28 May 2010 at 9:37pm |
Well, those that have been paying attention know we've been up to no good here in WI, like I mentioned here:
Can you guess how this ends? LOL! Dad talked to the guy some more on Thursday at work. When I got home Thursday, after we had supper, we went on a road trip to check the tractor out. The guy wasn't around, but gave us the go ahead to check it out if we wanted. The mosquitoes were SWARMING, so we didn't spend any more time than necessary! Checked it all over. It's another project for sure, but with any luck shouldn't be too bad.
Ok, so it's really a WD45, not a WD. Tree DID fall on it. good size maple tree, did some good damage. Price just dropped, LOL! Has what I believe is factory power steering (which is broke, I'll get back to that later). Has snap coupler, but missing some parts. all in all kinda rough, but complete. Find the serial number, referenced my books and its a 1955.
Dad called the guy up and threw him an offer. Lets just say the price we settled on was a steal. So I'm the proud Papa of a WD45 now!
We went home and we talked to our favorite trailer buddy, and with the ok to use it, went to bed.
Got up early this morning and headed out to the woods to get a couple of good rims/tires because 2 on this tractor (name pending yet) are extremely flat.
Got to the tractor, jacked it up and swapped out tires. Blocked up the front end loader. Loosened up the left brake band so the tractor would roll. Scared the mouse out of it's house in the process! EEEk! Boy is that icky in there.....
Got it pulled down the hill and to where we could get it on the trailer. All with no steering mind you. I mentioned that the power steering was broke right? That sure makes steering a hunk of iron much harder.....
But got it home, and unloaded in the woods. Got power steering off tractor and took it home. Disassembled it and found the broken part. I'll start another post on Power steering questions later (with pics).
Took gas tank off to clean. Same with carb. took off valve cover to see what that looked like. NICE and clean! but the tube to oil the rocker rube is broke. and no plugs in the end of the rocker tube either.
All in all a good weekend so far! Don't get me wrong, I love my Dad, and all his projects he finds me. I wouldn't trade it for anything!
Pics to come....
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Posted: 28 May 2010 at 9:51pm |
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What did you name it?
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Jacob (WI,ND)
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Posted: 28 May 2010 at 9:58pm |
Oh, and I have to mention that we made the deal on this tractor, before I even actually seen my LAST tractor purchase (Molly) in person! LOL! My name is Jacob, and I'm and AC addict..... Tee hee!
Here she is last evening:
(well for some reason, It's not letting me upload pics now. maybe the site is having issues? I'll try again later, sorry)
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Jacob (WI,ND)
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Posted: 28 May 2010 at 10:04pm |
 Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:
What did you name it? |
Name is still pending. Might be named after the guys Dad, since that is who's it was. Have to talk to the guy more to find out tractors history. Otherwise, it might be "Daisy", since it has daises growing in its front end loader bucket. LOL! I don't know if I really want that one to stick, but I think it might have already.....
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Posted: 28 May 2010 at 10:19pm |
Dang Jacob you and your Dad are getting in this used tractor buying. Go for it!!!
I'd name this one "Maple" LOL
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Posted: 28 May 2010 at 10:23pm |
Don(MO) wrote:
Dang Jacob you and your Dad are getting in this used tractor buying. Go for it!!!
I'd name this one "Maple" LOL
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"Maple" HA! Thats good! Dad will get a kick out of that one!
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Posted: 29 May 2010 at 7:11am |
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Jacob - good for you! WD is good, WD45 is better!! What is it about left brake housings? I was cleaining some gunk out of mine and the mouse kept poking its nose out to see who was disturbing its home! Glad you found a clean top end - mine was VERY gunky....full of sludge. I cleaned a lot out, but the brand new oil that I poured in the motor is now an ugly grey color...... time for anothe oil change! Have fun.
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Posted: 29 May 2010 at 7:59am |
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Saved another one. GOOD! Looks like I may have bought four this week. Sale is still pending on one. Hopefully get the rest home Sunday so I can really see what I have. The adventure continues!
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Posted: 29 May 2010 at 8:28am |
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And the herd grows -- LOL Sounds like ya got a project there to keep you out of trouble this summer. Look forward to seeing some progress pictures ---- and a name.
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Jacob (WI,ND)
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Posted: 29 May 2010 at 9:09am |
Ok help please. I can load the pics to the site. I see them in the box on the left side. I can click on them and see them in the preview box on the right. But nothing happens when I click "ok". I can however click on and use old photo uploads, they work fine. Maybe my upload box is full?? How do I delete old photos to make room for new ones? Am I missing something? I'm fairly good with computers, but this has me stumped.
Its killing me to have the photos, but not being able to post them here!
test: some more, hope this is working... and one of the PS unit:
Does this work? Can you see them? I can click on the link and it opens. The insert photo deal must be being worked on, now it doesn't even open for me.
Edited by Jacob (WI,ND) - 29 May 2010 at 11:10am
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Posted: 29 May 2010 at 6:49pm |
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Jacob, They all opened and worked for me. Looks like a decent unit with some storm damage. Good deal and God Bless.
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When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!
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Posted: 31 May 2010 at 8:31pm |
Hi all, Todays update: Not much. Got a piece of tubing cut and drilled to put in place of where the power steering unit was, so the tractor is steerable. Got it pulled back to the barn. Moved a pile of junk wood to the burn pile, then parked the tractor in that spot. So now it can wait its turn to get worked on. LOL! Does any of that count as progress? I don't really think so. So much to do, so little time....
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Posted: 31 May 2010 at 8:51pm |
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You should name it "Elmer" Chalmers.
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Posted: 06 Jun 2010 at 2:35pm |
Ok, I lost the battle.... The family is calling this one "Daisy", because it has daisies growing in the front end loader bucket. Dad talked to the guy I bought it from, and it turns out it was NOT his Dads or anything, just another case of him getting this because someone owed him some money, and all that person had was this tractor. Last two tractors I got have had this story.
And I don't think I mentioned that it is supposed to come with another front rim and tire (don't know condition, or if it's original or not), as well as a set of "Brand New" tire chains. We'll see I guess.... He's supposed to give them to Dad at work some day.
On another topic, I had Dad look at the engine serial number, because I never did, and I was curious as to if it was original or not. Turns out there is NO serial number stamped on the boss by the carb. Dad cleaned it up to bare metal (was covered in gunk) and he says it has no sign of ever being stamped. So maybe it's a replacement block? Is there any other location on the WD45's that the number would have been stamped instead of on the boss?
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Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 9:53pm |
Hi all, Update for today. Dad tinkered with Daisy some this afternoon. Got the grill shell off, and took off the radiator since it was crunched up anyway. He banged most of the dents out of the grill, so with a little more work, it will be good as new! Did all WD45's not have the option for radiator shutters? This grill dose not even have the hole for the hand crank for the shutters in it. I guess I never noticed that on tractors before.
He also found a broken part on the hand crank unit. We'll have to weld that up.
And he snapped a pic of this part that the hand clutch bumps up against when not engaged. Is this factory, or has it been added? I thought there was not supposed to be anything, but this looks nice, and like it belongs. It has a rubber bumper it hits when forward.
The good news is that the tractor still turns over easily with the hand crank, which we couldn't really do before because the fan blade would hit the bent up radiator. Now that the radiator is off, it can be turned over. All seems OK there, so that is one less thing to worry about. I think Dad wants to get a different radiator on this one to get it running and check out the other aspects of it (tranny, clutches, etc...) So, will a WC or WD radiator fit on a WD45? We might have to swap a radiator out to try things out. It's nice to have other tractors to rob parts off of. LOL!
That's about it for today, slowly but surly.... It's a good thing Dad is working on my projects, otherwise they may never get done! LOL! I need a garage here in ND.
Edited by Jacob (WI,ND) - 13 Jun 2010 at 10:03pm
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Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:27pm |
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Nice find! That tree sure did a number to it tho.
That's a char-Lynn power steering, in case you didn't know. That hand clutch bumper thing is aftermarket, just saves your back from having to reach so far forward.
I've never seen a loader attached like that! Is it right or did someone re-engineer it to lower the center of gravity? Nice bucket extention by the way.
Any radiator should work fine for testing. Don't know if there is any difference at all between them.
Good luck and keep us posted.
mojo
one more thing....45 radiator shells usually don't have a shutter hole FWIW
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Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:39pm |
Mojo wrote:
Nice find! That tree sure did a number to it tho.
That's a char-Lynn power steering, in case you didn't know. That hand clutch bumper thing is aftermarket, just saves your back from having to reach so far forward.
I've never seen a loader attached like that! Is it right or did someone re-engineer it to lower the center of gravity? Nice bucket extention by the way.
Any radiator should work fine for testing. Don't know if there is any difference at all between them.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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I don't know anything about the loader, other than its strange! LOL! Here is a pic of the ID tag on it: As far as I can tell, it has not been modified, it bolts to the tractor rather nicely actually. If anyone was interested it the loader, I could probably be persuaded to eventually sell it, seeing as I now have several loaders. I'll have to see how well it works once we get the tractor running.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 9:19pm |
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Jacob, The bracket with the rubber insert is used with the hand clutch disengagement mechanism that hooks to the snap coupler bell linkage. It disengages the hand clutch if you hit an immovable object in the ground when you are plowing. You don't have the actual disengagement lever. At least it is not shown in that same photo where it should be visible right behind the clutch lever. I have the lever but not the stop bracket. Would you be interested in selling the stop bracket?
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 12:30am |
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aaawww, that's not so bad a lookin critter, i've seen worse! loader looks pretty good, i had a tow truck pull in my driveway one day, he had a wd on back, he said he saw i had a bunch of AC trats and wanted to know if i'd be interested in buying this tractor? he had no use for it but if i didn't want it, he was going to the crusher with it.(was a payment or a tow) i gave him $50.00 and he unloaded it! it's missing some body and other parts but drivetrain seems mostly there. it does turn over with the crank. but yours looks better than mine.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 5:40am |
Jacob
Can you provide closeup photos of the rear mounts for the loader.
The loader looks like the Horn I have, but mine is for NFE only.
As best I can see in your photos it looks like I may be missing parts for mine.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 7:25am |
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Jacob: It looks to me that you are on a mission. Keep on searching for those abandoned orphans. Dave.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 7:15pm |
RickM(MO) wrote:
Jacob, The bracket with the rubber insert is used with the hand clutch disengagement mechanism that hooks to the snap coupler bell linkage. It disengages the hand clutch if you hit an immovable object in the ground when you are plowing. You don't have the actual disengagement lever. At least it is not shown in that same photo where it should be visible right behind the clutch lever. I have the lever but not the stop bracket. Would you be interested in selling the stop bracket?
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Ah, OK, that makes sense. I don't believe that unit is there, and now that you mention it, there is the chain that goes from the hand release lever that goes down to the snap coupler bell is missing. Would that be because it may have had this release unit on it once, or just a coincidence? I'm going to hang on to this for now, I like how it keeps the handle at closer reach, as opposed to Wayne's, which goes way forward. But I'll keep you in mind if I decide to ever get rid of it. Thanks!
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 7:29pm |
Gary in Texas wrote:
Jacob
Can you provide closeup photos of the rear mounts for the loader.
The loader looks like the Horn I have, but mine is for NFE only.
As best I can see in your photos it looks like I may be missing parts for mine.
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Shameless, that's my kind of deal! This one was not nearly that good though, LOL!
Dave, that's pretty much what I do! What would be the fun in buying a running/working/ restored tractor? LOL! Bringing them back from the dead is half the fun!
Gary, I don't currently have any good pics of that area of the loader, but I'll have Dad snap some when he's out there next (probably this weekend). All I have is this one now, which is not much help: If you want any pics of other things, just let me know and I'll pass the message along.
What is the difference between a narrow front and a wide front loader? I'm probably going to feel dumb when I hear the answer, but can't think of it now. And just a FYI, in case you didn't read this post in whole, this is not a Horn loader. I provided a pic of the ID tag on it earlier in the post.
Thanks all, for all your help and words of encouragement, I appreciate it!
Edited by Jacob (WI,ND) - 15 Jun 2010 at 7:32pm
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 7:44pm |
I saw thw ID phot, but your loader is designed a lot like the Horn I have.
The narow front loader does not have the arched lift arms that go to the bucket, these are straight on it, if you put this Horn on a wide front end tractor the front axel support would stop the loader from going to the ground.
I would still like to see the rear mounts up close, main ones would be the ones that support the hyd. cylinders. I can wait as long as it takes for you Dad to get the photos.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 7:50pm |
Gary in Texas wrote:
I saw thw ID phot, but your loader is designed a lot like the Horn I have.
The narow front loader does not have the arched lift arms that go to the bucket, these are straight on it, if you put this Horn on a wide front end tractor the front axel support would stop the loader from going to the ground.
I would still like to see the rear mounts up close, main ones would be the ones that support the hyd. cylinders. I can wait as long as it takes for you Dad to get the photos.
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Ok, I was just checking :) And now I know about loaders, I knew it would be a simple answer! LOL! I'll get the pic asap, thanks again!
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 8:00pm |
This is a photo of the Horn NFE loader setting in my driveway.
It may give a clearer idea...
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Gary in Texas wrote:
This is a photo of the Horn NFE loader setting in my driveway.
It may give a clearer idea...
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Ahh Yes, I remember your post now (the ambitious lawn tractor, LOL!) I believe (going from my memory) that what you have there for rear brackets, is about what I have. Though I wana say yours are flip flopped side to side maybe? I *think* that the curved part of each one bolts to the final drive, and the angle iron part bolts to the frame rails. Then the other bracket (arm that goes up to the upper cylinder, etc...) goes on top of the discussed final bracket. I could be way off though..... This is why pics are so handy :)
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 8:46pm |
It looks like the "upper cylinders" on you Allis connect to the fram rails and not the final drive bracket. Looking at your photos.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 9:11pm |
Gary in Texas wrote:
It looks like the "upper cylinders" on you Allis connect to the fram rails and not the final drive bracket. Looking at your photos.
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Yes, you are right. Shows how well I know what I have, (granted it is new to me, and 10 hours away....) I was actually just thinking about this some more, and came back to find your latest post, so I decided to look some more at my pics. I found this: So it appears you are missing at least those two brackets that attach to the frame rails. (if it's like mine)
Edited by Jacob (WI,ND) - 15 Jun 2010 at 9:12pm
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 9:59pm |
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That is what it looks like to me as well.
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