The next generation Gleaner

No, I will check out what you posted. Got a new post from Gleaner and Bien 2 hours ago though.

There releasing a new 9 series From Gleaner in Nov. supposed to have a new cab, few improvements , and new numbers. But will look basically the same. That's what I was told.
      IG

The Gleaner 9 will probably out harvest the JD 10 anyway.  The JD will be so heavy it will sink in wet fields.

I remember when gleaner had the only class 7 combine; 6 was as big as any competition had. Now with horse power and grain tank capacity being two criteria for classification, what does the horsepower and grain tank capacity have to be to have a combine classified as a class 10 machine? I don't remember what horsepower the N7 gleaner had, but I know the grain tank held 315 bushels. Now I can somewhat fathom getting the horsepower required to be a class 10, but with the grain tank size requirement, where in the heck do you put a tank big enough. Combines are already about as tall and wide as they can feasibly be. And who sets the criteria for the classification system? Have they already got criteria established for class 11, 12 13, and so on, or does the manufacturer make this up as they go? Wonder when the size race will stop? And speaking of size, supposedly case IH is working on a 1,000 horsepower quad track. What do you pull with that? And now with John Deere making a quad track tractor, and getting $1,000 per horsepower for it, they could quite likely have the first million dollar tractor, if they match case IH.Darrel

hmm...
they could quite likely have the first million dollar tractor

I' have to ask HOW friggin long would it take to pay THAT off ? How many acres of say soybeans or corn would you have to sow ??

curious Jay

if you add production costs, take the bushel amount above and times it by about 3 times +/-.

They don't ever pay for themselves. It's all a money and tax game.    I know one thing our roads are being destroyed by large farm equipment here. The shoulders get completely broke up in big chunks. So when you have to use the shoulder its like driving across a plowed field

Years ago a farmer was sued for driving on the shoulder. The ruling was that he created a third lane and caused an accident. Since then, 1980 something I believe, Dad has always preached to use the full lane when roading the tractor or combine. That's what I do and I do not wave a car by me if the lane is clear in a no passing zone. Their on their own.

Im a gleaner guy through and through but when is enough, enough. Its seems like they are doing the same thing everyone else is doing, more power or more grain bin space. Im sorry but you can move but so much through the thing. Its hard to keep corn away from one as it is now. I love gleaners, best combines ever built in simplicity and design but guess they have to try and keep up with the competition.

its going to be the demise of the family farm. I have a neighbor that between him and his partner (and some hired help in the fall) do 2500 acres. his expenses are so high per acre that that's how much land he needs to make a living. now you can take 4 or 5 solo guys with smaller old equipment and the can make the same money off a fraction of the acres, its pure waist. that 2500 acres could support 5 families instead of 2. At least that's how I see it.   

that and cash rent... Cash rent needs to be outlawed. no little guy can compete with these Big time Outfits paying $400 an acre and making next to nothing profit.

And then you have the Insurance Fraud Farmers....

$25. is good compared to a lot of farmers! it's when you get down into the single digits that sucks! and a lot of farmers have had that, even on the minus side a few times! try to pay for any color machines, new or used with a few years of that! been a couple times my job in town pulled me thru...just to start all over again the next year....not knowing!

yeah ethan...we had 2 farmers rent some ground near here, they used the govt payment as most of their cash rental agreement of $350. per acre. but when harvest time was complete, they couldn't or didn't want to pay that much, and didn't, so the land owner is out on the rent! was a hand shake agreement, nothing in writing, and it looks like the courts will rule in favor of the renters, not the land owner! they said the production wasn't there, everyone thinks they either have the grain hideen or they shipped it out of state under a different name!

SHAMELESS wrote: I agree with you Paul...and I can't help but think that there would be more farmers stay in it if they could get new smaller combines and other equipment (not just acreage stuff)! almost all of my equipment is overkill on the amount of acres I farm! but that's all you can find anymore that isn't completely wore out! maybe Gleaner company could start a new fad along with building the big stuff! go back and build a new 3-4 row machine! same with planters. how long has it been since ya'll have seen a brand new 4-row planter?

Explain why they dropped the R42?   It's because it didn't sell! It was too small it's a warm and fuzzy idea but not practical.   Manufactures can't or won't make little ones cheaper enough for the little guy. I think you can import tiny Chineese combines. I never heard a person say they would farm if they could only buy a new little combine to start with.    Pure a Silly concept.

It's not really a free market. The government has a whole lot of control and works hand in hand with companies like Cargill. Remember when the government first told the farmers to get big or get out? Since then the government has molded farming into large corporate entities and made trade deals that has made and broke lots of farmers depending on their size and they have no problem bailing out farmers when times get tough. Get the government out and make them do their original assigned job. The more the government gets involved the more volatile the prices have been. Bailouts save the big ones and doesn't do much for small farmers.