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ewbs79
Silver Level Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Location: trenton,mo Points: 81 |
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Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 11:31am |
Anyone have any information on an old wards grainbuster hammer mill? I'm wanting to crack corn and this has sat in the barn for years unused. I need to know what kind of horsepower it's gonna take to run it. I'd love to find a manual if someone had one they share also. Thanks for reading.
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1950acwd
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The power to run really depends on the size of the mill, we grind ear corn in our 10 inch mill with a 35 HP tractor and have a little power to spare, I was always told you can tell the size of the mill by measuring across the hammers. It also depends on how fast you feed it, but grinding shelled corn or cracking it will take less power then grinding ear corn.
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DougS
Orange Level Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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You can probably drive it with a 20HP tractor if you feed it a bit more slowly. Is this mill belt driven?
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FloydKS
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We had a hammer mill that we ran with either a 14 or a 17...been a while back to remember, can't remember if the WD ran it or not. As the guys have said, if you can get it up to speed the momentum will carry it some depending on how much you feed into it.
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AC7060IL
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I have an older Fairbanks Morse hammer mill/grinder that is pro driven. It is mounted on pull type cart frame equipped with metal spoke wheels (1930s era?). For years, I hooked it to my 1941 Farmall M to grind fat cattle feed (corn, alfalfa, & little soy meal supplement). The Farmall M is 36hp pto. The 540 pto shaft came into a larger 3 belt 20"pulley that ran a smaller 8" pulley mounted on hammer mill shaft. So, that combination speed up the mill shaft to 1350 rpms?? It had different screens (3/4" holes for ear corn, 1/2" hole, 1/4" hole-the one I used most, & 1/8" hole). These screens were all 1/4" thick and about 12" wide x 18" length. They were molded into a curved shape to match the arch of the hammers & wrapped around the base of the hammers arch where the grain had to exit. Once sized, the ground feed would be sucked up and transferred via a blower which was also on the hammer mill shaft. It had a moveable flow panel on its feed shoot. At a maximum, it could eat about a 3/4" depth x 12" wide of grain flow. The small bay alfalfa was feed in, one beat at a time after the grain. It was all that I had at the time, but it did a good job.
I don't have a picture of it. Maybe I can find one online and post it later?
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JoeO(CMO)
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Think about how old it is (what year made) and what was available then in terms of HP.
Belt driven? |
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AC7060IL
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I found this online at this weblink:
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SHAMELESS
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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we ran an old hammermill with a VAC case for years, it would take it as fast as 2 guys could scoop ear corn in it, was belt driven, but throw a slice of hay in it...and you'd be putting the belt back on and unsluggin it!
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ewbs79
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It's belt driven yes. Has an approximate 6 inch diameter input pulley. Was hoping maybe the little C would turn it. Probably grind less than 500 pounds a month if that much.
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ewbs79
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It's belt driven yes. Has an approximate 6 inch diameter input pulley. Was hoping maybe the little C would turn it. Probably grind less than 500 pounds a month if that much.
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ewbs79
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DiyDave
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A C oughta run that, no problem. You might want to check out what the hammers and screen look like, most are of a type that can be rotated 4 times, before they are wore out. even after that, you can grind a square shoulder on the rounded hammers, as long as you keep the weight the same for each hammer, to keep the whole thing in balance...
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SHAMELESS
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hook it up and run it, you'll soon find out what it'll handle and what it won't!
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DougS
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You'll know how fast you can feed it by the sound of things when it begins to lug down. That and watching the belt slide outward on the pulley, ready to slide off, when the going is getting too tough.
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Power required will be affected by the screen in use as well as how fast you can shovel grain in. |
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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I don't know how I missed this when it was posted, but I have Dad's monkey Wards Grainbuster hammer mill. It's a 13 inch and he ran it with the CA for all the years he ground feed.
My boss had been on vacation once and when he got to the shop he handed me a manila envelope. Inside was a brochure on Montgomery Wards hammer mills. They made a 9 inch, a 13 inch and a 15 inch. I found out Dads cousin had a 15 inch and it was in an old fallen down crib. Before I could get it out, his son in law dozed the building into a pile, burned it, and scrapped the metal. |
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Make sure you stake it down good. You will need at least 2 old buggy axles cut in half and driven almost all the way in the ground. I do have a belt pulley that goes on a 540 PTO shaft. I don't know how fast the PTO turns compared to the belt pulley on say a WD45. That is what we used 2 times a month to grind ear corn for the fat cattle. The last mill we had was a Case. Dad decided to grind corn by himself on a weekday. One of the hammers broke off, it landed on top a 3 story barn and when the dang mill stopped flopping around it was about a hundred feet from where it was staked down. Pop wasn't hurt but from then on, the neighbor would bring over the truck mounted corn sheller.
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Dakota Dave
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We ground feed with a moline one that size with Our C it worked fine we ground a 6' long stock tank full every month. Mixed Cob Corn, oats dry molasses and mineral. It does need to be held in place We chained it to the pole barn pole. The C had no problem we didn't feed it very fast. Dad was more concerned that we fed the correct proportions and it was well mixed. It took one trailer load of cob corn 2 bags oats one smal pail molasses and a big cup minerals sprinkled in as we were feeding it to make one stock tank of feed. That would last a month for our 50 chickens and one milk cow.
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