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   I got a 6060 Ive messing with that will sometimes -click- a couple times before it starts, the selonoide is a couple years old, I put another starter on it with a new selonoide and the same thing, doesnt do it all the time just every now and then ; I cleaned up the connections on the clutch safety switch, but I guess it could be the switch its self ; anyone ever deal with this ??? T he key switch has been replaced a couple years ago when I put the new selonoide on , they should last longer than a couple years I hope    Felony acalcerosis bilinear copaline fornication pyrochemical reward elaborated splined inconsolable metamer degradation denumerant. Downshaft ricinelaidin cryoprotective unwomanly upwind clearway overreact responsibility dampness? vermox propranolol inoxidize triamcinolone hytrin
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DougG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8183	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 6060 starting or -clicking - Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 5:14pm
	I got a 6060 Ive messing with that will sometimes -click- a couple times before it starts, the selonoide is a couple years old, I put another starter on it with a new selonoide and the same thing, doesnt do it all the time just every now and then ; I cleaned up the connections on the clutch safety switch, but I guess it could be the switch its self ; anyone ever deal with this ??? T he key switch has been replaced a couple years ago when I put the new selonoide on , they should last longer than a couple years I hope

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cwhit Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Sigel IL Points: 987	Post Options Post Reply Quote cwhit Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 6:37pm
	My neighbors 6080 does something similar. You have to push down on the PTO lever. Could be a safety switch..

G3farms Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote G3farms Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 7:29pm
	My 6080 does the same thing, very aggrivating. Sometimes I have to jump power from the battery terminal to the solenoid terminal to get her to crank over. I am leaning toward the key switch myself. G3
	Proud owner of one of the very last 6080 tractors, serial no. 7711, yep it is correct!

DSeries4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7379	Post Options Post Reply Quote DSeries4 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 10:30pm
	There are 2 safety switches for the PTO. One on the right side of the torque tube and the other is just beside the left axle. Replace them both - they are cheap. Should help.

kev/ont Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castleton Ont Points: 282	Post Options Post Reply Quote kev/ont Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2009 at 7:53am
	If you are getting the click at the starter than the safety switches are working as once you have power to the "s" terminal on the starter and the solenoid closes, the power to turn the starter comes directly from the battery. Are you using New starter or reman unit.? My recommendation would be to run a new cable from the neg batt terminal right to either the starter ground terminal or the mounting flange. Might already have a dead spot in this new starter as they do not like high amp starts for very long. Good luck!

Gerald J. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerald J. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2009 at 11:30am
	In my liftime, clicks like that have always indicated its time to clean the battery posts. Gerald J.

G3farms Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote G3farms Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2009 at 6:36pm
	hot battery, new hot cable made from 1/0 welding cable, new battery ends on both cables, cleaned bolt and mounting surface where ground wire mounts, pulled starter off and had it gone through by reputable shop (new bushings, turned armature, new brushes, new solenoid), all connectios on starter cleaned and tightened. I can take and short the hot post on the starter to the solenoid and she will crank just fine everytime. Using the key switch it will click very loud like it is trying to engage but just does not. Sometimes it hits on the first turn of the switch and sometimes several and sometimes it just will not. IDEAS!?!?!?! G3
	Proud owner of one of the very last 6080 tractors, serial no. 7711, yep it is correct!

David Gantt N.C. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina Points: 379	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Gantt N.C. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2009 at 7:33pm
	you may can Bypass the switchs and see if it will crank, if not I would pull the cap off the Solenoid and check the contact post and pluncler

Ben Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ben Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2009 at 11:19pm
	I have seen this problem with the 6060/6080 and with older tractors & trucks that are wired to carry the solenoid load from the key switch throught the safety switches to the solenoid. Want happens is the harness wires and or connectors get corroded up inside side the insulation causing a voltage drop or (click) when you hit the key switch. Check the voltage at the switch and then at the solenoid with wire disconnected. There should be less then a 2 volt drop. A simple solution is to remove the load from the harness and swithes by installing a slave soleniod by the starter witch will carry the load. The slave sol is actuated by the key and safety swithes . The starter sol.can require 40 to 60 amps at times to give it a good engagement. A starter sol. for a D 17 makes a good slave for this problem. Make sure your switches and connections are in good shape. I have seen this problem cause alot of unnessessary starter repair. Good Luck Ben

Steve Zidlicky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Bolivar, MO Points: 325	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve Zidlicky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2009 at 8:54am
	I had touble with a 6060 and also 185 starters and was told the very same thing by the starter shop that Ben said. Those extra connections and smaller long wires will sure zap the voltage going to the solenoid and if you are getting a good start by jumping (bypassing) the circuts, the extra soleniod bypasses helps. Not something new, some semi trucks already have that. As stated earlier, check your voltage to the small wire on the starter solenoid. That will tell the story. I have a diagram of this somewhere but maybe someone else can post it on here. Steve

G3farms Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote G3farms Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2009 at 10:42am
	That sounds more right to me. I think there are four safety switches on it and that amounts to a bunch of little wires, connectors, and switch contacts. I will check the voltage drop first to see what is going on there. Thanks for the input, I knew I could count on you fellas. G3
	Proud owner of one of the very last 6080 tractors, serial no. 7711, yep it is correct!

Rawleigh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: White Stone, VA Points: 421	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rawleigh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2009 at 10:48am
	It can also be a burned contact in the solonoid. It was in my Case 930.

G3farms Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote G3farms Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2009 at 12:57pm
	Mine did it right from the rebuilder and it got a new solenoid, stood there and watched him rebuild it from start to finish. G3
	Proud owner of one of the very last 6080 tractors, serial no. 7711, yep it is correct!

sherman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote sherman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 9:48am
	mine did the same thing and has a nippondenso stater, it was the copper contacts in the solenoid.... it draws more and more thru a smaller piece of copper over time and in the end jams on! something for people to check anyway

Lester Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Location: Indiana Points: 518	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lester Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 10:44am
	My 7060 has done that for years.

Amos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Points: 1318	Post Options Post Reply Quote Amos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 10:35pm
	Just wire in a delco remy relay into the wire from the key (start position) to the solenoid. They can be found under the hood of a lot of older dodge (shadow, Kcar, Lebaron, Acclaim...). Did this about 20 years ago to my 6060 and have never had a problem starting since. Wish I would have figured it out before Dad dropped a battery through the rad core the second time changing "bad" batterries...... I had only 7 volts at the solenoid before I wired in the relay. Now when I check it I always have the same as the battery's. Edited by Amos - 07 Sep 2010 at 10:38pm

michaelwis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Wi Points: 8765	Post Options Post Reply Quote michaelwis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 10:58pm
	*my 2 cents worth would be the switch on pto lever .. ours did it ..thats where da problem was*
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