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    Posted: 04 Aug 2014 at 10:45am
5/16 stem
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Bronze bush a standard one down to 5/16".
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You could do it that way . Mitch has good lathemanship so he just turns out a complete guide
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Originally posted by mgburchard mgburchard wrote:

You could do it that way . Mitch has good lathemanship so he just turns out a complete guide

Last year you didnt have time to run a lathe to make tooling that costs several hundred dollars,(AKA cam bearing tooling)  now this year you fool around making bronze valve guides one at a time that can be bought for $5.75 each or relined for 1/3 of that??  Shop slow Mitch?

Different day, different handle but  same ole stupidity. 

???Where is your Gleason???


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Well Butch, the lathe is about the simplest machine to run. I rember riding with a friend to work so I could run the lathe before I had a drivers license at 16. It was fun as a kid to make simple lathe projects, and I suppose for a guy in his late 50's there's also a sense of pride in doing simple lathe projects.

I can't help but wonder why the boys missed the August 2nd dyno challenge.
"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Butch you must be confused Mitch was doing 5/16 guides in 2010 .it was around 05 when he found that a 11/32 392 guide was the same outside diameter
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First 5/16 turned guides with Chevy 5/16 valve stems 1.5 diameter springs and titanium springs sold to forum member Craig d smith of Penfield NY sept 2011
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Originally posted by mgburchard mgburchard wrote:

Butch you must be confused Mitch was doing 5/16 guides in 2010 .it was around 05 when he found that a 11/32 392 guide was the same outside diameter

 Guide were even cheaper in 2010 than they are now which is $5.75 each,, would you like a catalog?  Let's see here.... if  I were to assume you have reasonable lathe skills and  are banging out 2 guides an hour you are grossing a whole $11.50 an hour in the shop while making your own valve guides. My tooling costs are higher than that,, but I buy tooling and materials, got no TVA daddy. 

BSing the masses is easier than BSing those who have been there and done that Pank, LOL. The guides look nice, that doesn't mean they are any good or ad anything to a build,,,

nor does it mean you are smart for making them. 


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Originally posted by wi50 wi50 wrote:

Well Butch, the lathe is about the simplest machine to run. I rember riding with a friend to work so I could run the lathe before I had a drivers license at 16. It was fun as a kid to make simple lathe projects, and I suppose for a guy in his late 50's there's also a sense of pride in doing simple lathe projects.

I can't help but wonder why the boys missed the August 2nd dyno challenge.

Hey Marty!  long time no chat.
 I guess I am old and lazy? I don't need any practice on the lathe either plus I like to have positive cash flow when I turn a machine tool on. I have heard that wages are lower in the south but dang, $11.50 shop time wont keep electric going and fresh coolant in the tank up here in Ohio???
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Cheaper rates would be the excuse I would use to if I knew people where passing by my shop headed to Mitch's.it saves more face than the truth .
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I have to hand it to you, I wouldn't have the patience to stand there and crank that old South Bend belt drive lathe (if that's the machine you in fact used) long enough to make eight of those. 
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Ah com'on Ken? Not even for $11.50 an hour shop rate?  Wink Why youd be rich in 3 months.
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Not sure Butch, that may not be a bad deal compared to some of this centerless grinding work we are getting into, having a few days in the big time negative lately, but I always need to expand my horizons, and this is the only grinding I have no experience with, making progress, but a little costly in the mean time. 
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Ken, Wondered what was going on with the grinding, educations sure cost $$.

 Amazing machine for me has been that little Giddings HBM. Shop floor is littered with work for it and If I had room for a 4-5" bar machine there would be lots more.
Unlike lathe work where you read the print, chuck some bar and make parts the HBM work I am getting requires you spend 9 hours studying what needs done and how your going to do it plus building your workholding jigs and  aligning the work piece. Then after all that you spend 30 minutes performing the job, that is if you didnt have to build some special tooling before hand,,,,Wink
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