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cosborn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Location: bourbon co. ks Points: 345 |
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I have a Sunmaster belly mower on my B. The modal # appears to be 3-360T with the serial # looking to be 61977-050-3715-3. The tag is in bad shape. I have it oiled and greased up. However the darn thing keeps throwing the deck belt (goes around the 3 blade spindles). I've tried it tight and tried it lose.
Any advice? Like does it need to be supper tight or do in need to make a keeper pulley/bolt? |
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1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front
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Creek Jenkins ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Northern Minn Points: 812 |
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Cosborn -
Are you using the old round belt or the new style double V belt? Or a regular V belt? I had the same problem on my C with my 60" SunMastr, the old round one finally gave up the ghost so I bought a new double V Gates. It kept throwing it off, sometimes right away, sometimes it would take a few minutes of mowing. I kept putting it back on, tightening it a little more, over and over, until a light came on, I backed off the adjustment until the belt seemed like it was too loose. Haven't touched it since, works like a charm. I guess since it is a big belt and has a lot of surface contact, you don't need to run it too tight. It has been a really good deck, I have many many hours mowing the "rough" outside my yard - thick and thin, tall and short grass, with the odd branch and rock thrown in. About4-5 acres. Plus I raise it up all the way and mow the tops off the grass in the pasture as our sheep won't eat the woody heads. Bought new blades last year and it mows as well as my $6000 zero turn. cheers, Creek |
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cosborn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Location: bourbon co. ks Points: 345 |
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IT is a double V. Ill have to loosen it more on my next day off.
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1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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could be your pulleys are worn too
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cosborn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Location: bourbon co. ks Points: 345 |
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How do I tell?
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1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front
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1939Dodge ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Location: Pa. Points: 554 |
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Any pictures of the deck? My label is damaged, may be a Sunmastr. Photos of your deck and label may help me identify it. Thanks!
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steigerbro24 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 2010 Location: Racine Wi Points: 283 |
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Take a look at the spindles and check for too much play. I have a belly mower that kept throwing the belt if I went above half throttle even though I tried tighter springs. One of the spindles had busted a bearing and that gave it way to much side to side play so that may be your problem. Also pics would be nice.
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5 Steigers, 7 John Deeres, 8 Internationals, 4 Case tractors and combines and 1 Oliver
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cosborn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Location: bourbon co. ks Points: 345 |
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Ill get pics tomorrow.
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1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front
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1939Dodge ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Location: Pa. Points: 554 |
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Thank you!
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Creek Jenkins ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Northern Minn Points: 812 |
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cosborn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Location: bourbon co. ks Points: 345 |
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1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front
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Creek Jenkins ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Northern Minn Points: 812 |
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Keep the spindle bearings grease - mine has a "weep" hole on the side opposite the zerk, I grease them until the ugly stuff stops coming out. If you can find a zerk on the center pulley setup let me know - I can't find one and it seems like that bearing would have a lot of side pull on it. You can still get parts from Artsway in Iowa if you need them. Spendy though. Blades I bought from a mower parts outfit - they are a little hard to find as they have two off center holes, no hole in the center of the blade. I've put a lot of hours on mine, it works pretty dang good.
cheers, Creek |
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joel19 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 13 Aug 2014 Location: mn Points: 4 |
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I have a c with sunmaster mower that is missing belts looking for part numbers for belts. I think the deck belt is r 50900 118 double b. The main drive belt a cant tell if it is a v belt or double. Anyone have numbers of these belts model of deck is b 360 ec
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drewman1977 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2015 Location: United States Points: 8 |
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I have that exact deck on my 1943 Allis Chalmers B model. Does anybody know where I can get the pulley's for this?
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 52514 |
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Do you have the belt routed correctly, and are all the spindles/idlers free turning?
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1939Dodge ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Location: Pa. Points: 554 |
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I have a rusty old SunMastr deck behind the garage. Free to anyone coming to central Pa. Who can use it.
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drewman1977 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2015 Location: United States Points: 8 |
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My belt is routed correctly but my idler pulley separated. Tractor has been out of commission for almost 2 years because of it. If PA wasn't so far away I would absolutely get it from you. I'm in central TX.
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drewman1977 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2015 Location: United States Points: 8 |
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If you would cut the idler pulleys off the deck with a torch I would buy them from you if you shipped them. I could send you a check, paypal, etc. You tell me how much you want for your time and labor. I am desperate. Do you have any pictures????
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drewman1977 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2015 Location: United States Points: 8 |
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The third picture above is the same deck I have. The closest pulley in that picture that somebody posted is the same idler pulley that separated on mine.
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Dusty MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5058 |
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I don't know what your idler pulley is like, but idler pulleys in general are rather easy to find.
This sunbird is back home in Michigan. Dusty
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mintenfarmer ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 22 May 2015 Location: Minnesota Points: 191 |
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Check surplus center for idler pulleys agco wanted $120 for a pulley I got there for $17
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Bill Long ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Creek That is on NICE LOOKING C!! Love those decals.
You know, sometime ago I was asked what I thought the nicest looking tractor Allis Chalmers made was. I said the C. I think the lines are really neat. Good Luck! Bill Long
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