Natural Gas Conversion???

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   I just read an article that we, "the USA" have a natural gas glut and will run out of storage room by this fall. Does any one run their tractors or vehicles on natural gas? How difficult is it to convert from gasoline to natural gas? I know that my propane household systems have a "coupler" conversion for natural gas. Is it permissible to store natural gas in place of propane and place valve conversions on the appliances and inlet pipes so the fuels are switchable? Are there companies that will deliver domestic use natural gas?

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EdK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Newcastle, CA Points: 223	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Natural Gas Conversion??? Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 9:24am
	I just read an article that we, "the USA" have a natural gas glut and will run out of storage room by this fall. Does any one run their tractors or vehicles on natural gas? How difficult is it to convert from gasoline to natural gas? I know that my propane household systems have a "coupler" conversion for natural gas. Is it permissible to store natural gas in place of propane and place valve conversions on the appliances and inlet pipes so the fuels are switchable? Are there companies that will deliver domestic use natural gas?

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Gerald J. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerald J. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 9:43am
	It takes a lot higher pressure to store an equivalent fuel value of compressed or liquid natural gas than for propane, so probably the propane tank won't work. Otherwise they would interchange with changing the gas orifice or needle setting. I have a 1948 Onan with a Continental Y-91 engine set up for propane, natural gas, coal gas, or gasoline. For the gaseous fuels there is a needle valve in the carburetor adjustable for any of those fuels right after a pressure regulator that passes gas only when the engine pulls a vacuum. Coal gas was the poorest quality of the three so the engine is over sized to produce 5 KW at the generator. It benefited from leaning the main jet on gasoline. Gerald J.

jccleav Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 May 2011 Location: Indianola IA Points: 211	Post Options Post Reply Quote jccleav Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 10:08am
	The major appliances (Furnace, Water Heater, dryer) would be the tricky ones. I do not think there is a difference in cook stoves. I do not know if there are any companies that deliver natural gas. There are companies that will convert vehicles to natural gas. The big thing is cost. Natural gas is less economical to run the gasoline. There are calculators out there that fugue the pay back time on the conversions.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian Jasper co. Ia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 10:13am
	Natural gas doesn't liquify like propane. In some of the higher pollution areas you will see fleet vehicles running CNG or LP. I remember noticing taxis in Vegas having CNG on them. Both Ford and GM produced factory CNG equipped vehicles for a few years in the early to mid 00's.
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Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4540	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 12:20pm
	I saw a new Peterbilt highway tractor with a big bunk last week at the local truck stop. It was powered by Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) Westport/Cummins is building the engine conversions. Volvo just announced CNG powered trucks are available. I think that anything to do with transportation or building equipment to use natural gas will be a good investment. NG prices are at a 10 year low. A month ago I tried to get a room in Williamsport PA, than Mansfield PA, finally got one in Bath NY. Every hotel had a 100 white crew cab trucks with Texas plates in the parking lot. Was told the there are no room available within 100 miles of Mansfield PA because everyone is drilling or fracing for natural gas.
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