1966 AC D17 IV

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   I am looking for a good acreage tractor to move snow in the winter, move some bales and then do brush hog and a little dirt moving in warmer months. I am looking into the model AC listed in the topic. Here are a couple of pictures:

The guy is asking $4900 right now but I don't know if I want to pay that since I will have to move the power source for the loader away from the PTO pump so that I could hook a bush hog, post hole digger, etc. up to it and also because I would have to get a three point hook up as well. It is a clean tractor, no leaks on the tractor, one cylinder has a small leak on the loader (I have been told $100 to rebuild). 

I am no tractor mechanic or expert by any stretch of the imagination so I was looking for some input as to value of the tractor, and what it might cost me to get the loader converted over to run off the tractor hydraulics and not a PTO pump as well as to get a 3 point done up right for the tractor. Thanks for any input and glad I found this board for some help!!!!!

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msubeagler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 23 Aug 2011 Location: South Dakota Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote msubeagler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 1966 AC D17 IV Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 2:03pm
	I am looking for a good acreage tractor to move snow in the winter, move some bales and then do brush hog and a little dirt moving in warmer months. I am looking into the model AC listed in the topic. Here are a couple of pictures: The guy is asking $4900 right now but I don't know if I want to pay that since I will have to move the power source for the loader away from the PTO pump so that I could hook a bush hog, post hole digger, etc. up to it and also because I would have to get a three point hook up as well. It is a clean tractor, no leaks on the tractor, one cylinder has a small leak on the loader (I have been told $100 to rebuild). I am no tractor mechanic or expert by any stretch of the imagination so I was looking for some input as to value of the tractor, and what it might cost me to get the loader converted over to run off the tractor hydraulics and not a PTO pump as well as to get a 3 point done up right for the tractor. Thanks for any input and glad I found this board for some help!!!!!

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John (C-IL) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 1654	Post Options Post Reply Quote John (C-IL) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 2:36pm
	Pretty nifty tractor, I paid $4000 for mine without the loader. You should be able to run the loader from the tractor pump. My other IV uses the hydraulic outlets on the back to do that. On the 3PTH, if you are wanting a 3PTH, especially for moving bales, I would look for a tractor that has a factory 3PTH. I think you would be disappointed with a conversion kit on a snap coupler tractor. The D17 is also pretty light on the front end when you hang that much weight off of the back, the endloader helps some but not totally.

Bob D. (La) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bob D. (La) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 3:10pm
	If the tractor is as good mechanically as it appears, that is a good,(not great) price. The loader could easily be switched over to run off the tractor hydraulics. They do make some good aftermarket 3 points or you could keep an eye open for a factory 3 point from someone who is parting one out. With your stated intentions for use, my opinion is it would be the cats meow. Only thing better would to be find a newer model with cab for pushing snow. Edited by Bob D. (La) - 23 Aug 2011 at 3:10pm
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Pat the Plumber CIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4879	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat the Plumber CIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 6:12pm
	Price sounds right if trans is in good shape, power director snaps in place tight and 3rd/4th gear does not pop out of gear coasting down a hill.Can get expensive to fix those problems. Looks like a nice tractor and loader.Like John said would suggest a factory 3 pt. hitch or heavy duty cat.2 3 pt. adaptor. Like Bob said hyds should be able to run off tractor hyds..Ser IV hyds. were quite an upgrade from previous series. I paid 5,800 for my D-17 Ser IV without a loader but does have fct 3 pt. which I would put a slightly higher value than snap coupler. Edited by Pat the Plumber CIL - 23 Aug 2011 at 6:13pm
	You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.

Brian Jasper co. Ia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian Jasper co. Ia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 6:56pm
	Thats a nice looking tractor. Theres easily $1200 worth of new tires on it. I paid $950 for new 16.9-28 Goodyears 3 years ago. If it's in as good of mechanical condition as it looks, $4900 is a good price in my opinion.
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Dean/MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Oak Grove, MN Points: 740	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dean/MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 7:17pm
	Looks like it may be challenging getting on and off the tractor. You would have to get on/off from the back. Also if you need hyd outlet for another implement ie. snowblower or something else you may want to put a hyd pump on the front off the crank to run the loader.
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Stan R Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Location: MA Points: 972	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stan R Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 7:36pm
	We run our loader for the D17 IV off the side mounted pump and can lift a fully loaded bucket of heavy dirt. As said, no need for the rear mounted pump. Otherwise, ours is a factory 3 pt. For plowing snow though, 4WD is the way to go. Our tractor has a tough time moving snow with the buckets (no chains, though the tires are loaded) in the winter.

msubeagler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 23 Aug 2011 Location: South Dakota Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote msubeagler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2011 at 8:21am
	I hate to say I feel it was a false alarm. When I got there to look at it you could see that first of all there was a lot of spray on touch up done right before it went up for sale. They had just sprayed right over most of the rust, dirt, grease, etc. We fired it up and I ran it down the road and back and it did well but it did have two very small oil leaks (one right where the bell housing meets up and one at the filter) and the one cylinder leaked signifcantly. It would tend to try and kick out of reverse on the high end he said as well. The loader was actually too big for the tractor it seemed and it took some special clutch/hydraulic work to make it perform certain actions. All in all he was extremely honest and upfront (the kind of guy I want to buy a tractor from in all ways) but I don't have the time or any know-how to fix all the little problems. I want to thank you all for your input!

Eric[IL] Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 485	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eric[IL] Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2011 at 8:30am
	You're on the right track. I have a 1967 AC 170 with an AC 500 loader. I paid $5500 for it back in 2004. Its the same as the D17 IV, just a year newer. The tractor has the AC 226 gas engine like the D17s but with a factory 3pt hitch. As someone else stated earlier, the AC loader & tractor combination make it easy to mount - dismount the operators station. It always starts in the winter. Its strong hp, convenient controls, & reliability make it tops... Since 2004, I have only purchased a new exhaust gasket & muffer for it, otherwise; it gets routine maintenance.

Ken(MI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Lansing, MI Points: 619	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ken(MI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2011 at 10:17am
	I just bought a 1965 Series IV with a loader and factory three point for $3,800.00, mechanically everything is the way it should be, the PD and transmission is tight, as is the steering and front end. It has a couple minor leaks from the plumbing for the remotes, has combine tires on it instead of the PA wheels, and the fenders have cancer. The above remarks are all true, a three point conversion on a Snap Coupler is about useless unless all you want it for is dragging a back blade or brush hog, and the factory pump will run the loader just fine.

ac45 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Points: 395	Post Options Post Reply Quote ac45 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2011 at 10:26am
	tThe loader looks like a monster, you are right it is too big for the tractor, it does have good tires, hes not out of lin eon price, but id be more concerned with the loader being ot big and awkward, it also hangs way out front and would be tippy. for another 500 to 1000 you can probabbly get a lot better matched set up.