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TomYaz 
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 7:14pm |
If one is experiencing wheat piling up on the draper before it finally travels into the concave as a big slug, what is the issue? Reel is low enough...Manual says dull blades??
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Roddo
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 7:49pm |
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Reel could be too low. If its pushing too far down on the crop it will move it backward standing not lay it back on the draper.
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 8:11pm |
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I agree with Roddo. In wheat all the reel has to do is lean or direct the wheat back to fall on the draper. Reel is way to low.
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 8:38pm |
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You may be cutting it to low .Cut as high as you can without missing low heads. The less amount of straw the better therhing.
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 9:00pm |
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I respectably disagree with wfmurray. What about farmers that bale straw? AllCrops were designed to take it all in and rubber on rubber threshing with their huge seperator area gave award winning results. The reel is too low picking up bunches of wheat instead of gently pushing it onto the draper.
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 10:03pm |
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Ditto on the reel is to low .
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Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 7:06am |
 Ryan Renko wrote:
I respectably disagree with wfmurray. What about farmers that bale straw? AllCrops were designed to take it all in and rubber on rubber threshing with their huge seperator area gave award winning results. The reel is too low picking up bunches of wheat instead of gently pushing it onto the draper. |
Thanks for the advice guys...
Ryan, it is possible to take in too much straw. I had a heavy stand and cut real low..plugging up like crazy..wasnt going too fast either..
BTw, your bars are in...will be shipping yours out this week.
Tom
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Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 7:13am |
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My father would try to run the 72 allcrop we had as high as he could without losing any grain.Being dairy farmers the straw was as valuable as the wheat.If the wheat was tall enough they would bale what came out of the combine and then cut the standing straw with the sickle mower and bale that up also.Not every year,but if the wheat was tall enough and we needed the straw.
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Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 7:23am |
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Everybody around here that combined oats, would run the combine high to eliminate extra straw going through the combine. Clipping the straw was done before baling as it was an important crop.
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Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 7:56am |
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The manual says dull blades, they are referring to the bunches right at the sickle. I'd leave the reel low, so it just clears the canvas, but move it back so it helps the wheat up the slick canvas. If the wheat wraps on the reel, then you are too low with the reel.
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Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 9:55am |
TedBuiskerN.IL. wrote:
The manual says dull blades, they are referring to the bunches right at the sickle. I'd leave the reel low, so it just clears the canvas, but move it back so it helps the wheat up the slick canvas. If the wheat wraps on the reel, then you are too low with the reel. |
Wheat around the reel was not an issue...so you and Jim Palmer say keep the reel low....I sense a CONTROVERSY! LOL!
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Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 8:43pm |
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I'm thinking your sickle sections would have to be pretty dull or your driving way too fast to have it bunch up on the canvas unless the reel is to low. The canvas has metal bars running across so they carry the crop up to the cylinder quite well.
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