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    Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 3:29pm
This winter we completely restored our wd45 complete overhaul paint trany whole nine yards. We wanted it to be original so switched it back to 6 volt system with generator. Now the problem starter barely turns engine over, put new brushes in starter didnt help much. Have a brand new 6 volt battery all new cables, I know the new overhaul will be tight but this will never turn over fast enough to tell what other problems we may have to tweek after haveing completely tore down. We do have spark at the plugs but seems a little week, after working all winter am anxiuos to here her run again but seem to be stuck here. Was told not to pull to start a new ovehaul seems like good advice as timeing may need to be adjusted ect. any ideas?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Orange Blood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 3:43pm
Well, the first question is, how tight do you think the engine is?  Did you plastiguage the lower end bearings, and shimmed them properly?
 
If you are sure of the engine, you may have a bad field in the starter, or a very dirty conductive amrature.  If the brushes aren't completely insulated like they should be, you will loose voltage in a mild short that will kill a starter speed dead in it's tracks.
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You have to have larger wire size cables with 6 volts that 12 volts. It takes twice the amps when you cut the voltage in half.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Don(MO) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 6:26pm
You need 1-0 battery cables to start it on 6 volts like Robert said and clean the cable connections good. pull the plugs out and roll the engine over to get oil pressure, one more place to look is at the starter pull it out and clean the head where it fits in the houshing. Don
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Just a thaught. The last two wd starters I had rebuilt got a 12 volt field coil put into them.
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If it hasn't been tried, couldn't the coil wire be taken off to rule out advanced/timing issues?

Had a starter rebuilt and after a few minutes of cranking the drive wouldn't come out like it should. Had to take it back again. I think he said the armature or something moved out of place.
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A really good WD-45 gas starter has a center armature bearing......most reman starters do not and it makes a big difference on 6 volts.
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Thanks for the input I think I will try the larger cable first and take plugs out to roll over faster, Then will try the really good starter with center bearing any idea where to find one or tell wich one to get. I dont think we have a timeing issue yet as it hasnt turned fast enough to get gas or even fire . that may be an issue later starter first. Since the same starter was used as a 12 volt system maybe it has the wrong fields, Weve had tractor forever and dont remember doing anyrthing to starter when we went to 12 volt.
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Worn bushings can make a HUGE difference because it don't take much to let the armature drag the fields.The center bushing is probably the most important one.12V can make a crappy 6V starter seem pretty good.
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