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MilesGray (CO/KS) 
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 Topic: Completely frustrated in Kansas!
Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 3:41pm |
I am trying to remove old sleeves from my 44C. I have tried several things:
1. use a hammer and a 2x4 to try to knock them loose. (yes, John, I got a bigger hammer!)
2. put a piece of wood on each side of the camshaft and against the bottom of the sleeve and used a chain wrapped around the block and attached to a floor jack to try to push the sleeves out.
These are 3 3/8 inch sleeves that I do not believe have been removed since they were installed at the factory.
Should I heat them with a torch, just keep hammering or what!
It's a good thing I Love Allis Chalmers or I would already have parted this one out! lol
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Miles Gray (CO/KS)
5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy!
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 3:48pm |
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If you aren't trying to save the sleeves, run a couple vertical weld beads up the inside. When the weld cools it will shrink the sleeves. If you want to save the sleeves some rust solvent like Kroil or a half and half mix of acetone and ATF might work.
Gerald J.
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acd21man
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 3:56pm |
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they make this great thing called a sleeve puller lol i had to use one on my wd45
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everett048
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 4:07pm |
Make a sleeve puller makes the job so easy,used my home made 1 several times on A,s
B,S and WC,s and also M crawlers not had a sleeve i couldn't move yet, even left over night wound right up sleeve still came up made it out of 1 inch unf stock threaded bar made several discs for bottom of sleeve, 8 inch round pipe on top 7/16 thick,a plate on top and a roller bearing and washer and wind away.If they don't move then wind up real tight then hit block with a club hammer and a piece of hard wood.That will shock it free.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 7:15pm |
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I turned a piece of 3/4 inch steel a touch smaller than the the OD of the sleeve, then turned a shot step on it to fit the bore. I had drilled a hole in the center for all thread but didn't use it. Put the block upside down on 4x4s on a solid concrete floor. Put you slug in the back side of one sleeve and strike smartly with 3lb or larger hammer, I had a block of Oak between the hammer and the slug. If the sleeves are stuck you can't get enough shock to remove with the engine on a stand or hanging somewhere.
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Jacob (WI,ND)
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 8:02pm |
 CTuckerNWIL wrote:
If the sleeves are stuck you can't get enough shock to remove with the engine on a stand or hanging somewhere.
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This is an important point. When you are beating, it must be SOLID! We beat the sleeves out of a little Allis engine, and were trying with it just hanging on the engine stand. Nothing. Braced it up with some solid 4x4's to the cement floor and a few good whacks with a BIG hammer later and they were out, pistons and sleeves. Had to make a press to get the pistons out of the sleeves.
Good luck!
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Jacob Swanson
1920 6-12; 1925,1926 20-35 longfenders; 1925,1926 15-25's; 1927,1929 20-35 shortfenders; C; B's; IB; WC's; WD; WD45
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48AC/WD
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 8:47pm |
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Get a sleeve puller, it comes out straight, and it makes it a helluva lot easier.
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JohnCO
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 10:00pm |
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Miles, I'll loan you the one I used to pull the B sleeve. It's crude but effective and I didn't have to get a bigger hammer.
When I saw your headline I thought it was a country song!
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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
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