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TomYaz 
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 5:13pm |
Model 60A on a 102" tilt deckover....my way(as taught to me by my helper)...critique away...and yes I had to go over a mountain..took all my TD Dodge could give.
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chllngr528
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 5:38pm |
I hope that your kidding that it took your dodge all it had lol. I know my dodge would have have forgotten that it was even back there.
You must have deleted your photos from photo bucket or where ever you had them because 4 of them are not showing up.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 7:09pm |
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nice trailer. i sell those and have a 20ft HOOPER trailer. pull it with a 06 Silverado 4X4 WT
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 7:19pm |
 chllngr528 wrote:
I hope that your kidding that it took your dodge all it had lol. I know my dodge would have have forgotten that it was even back there.
You must have deleted your photos from photo bucket or where ever you had them because 4 of them are not showing up. |
I see all the pics...
cummins 12 valve 175 Horse. 25-30 MPH. Pyro at 800, boost 25-30. I am talking about when going up the moauntain. Mechanic was familiar with the road and said borderline to be expected or perhaps not getting quite enough fuel. Of course if he would have put on on the fuel pressure guage as I asked I could have ascertained that.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 7:53pm |
When I looked before the pics kept coming up with red X's. I reloaded it twice and still the same. I can see them now though.
I was kidding around about the dodge thing. It it very unfair to compare my truck to yours. 02 dodge cummins 4x4 SB double disc clutch, nv5600, twins, diesel only, 437hp 971 ft lbs tq last time she was dynoed. The beauty is thanks to my twins I can tow with that power and not have to worry about my egts to much thanks thanks to the twins. I just have to back off the timing a little. 232XXX and counting.
12Vs don't really need a fuel pressure gauge as the VP44 trucks do. It doesn't hurt to have one but you don't really need one till you start messing around with fuel plates and such.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 7:59pm |
I should add that I love old 12Vs. If I had the extra cash I would have one. Also the thing about FP guage, thats my opinion and people will argu that they do need one. But failures are not to common when compared to vp44 trucks and the P7100 pump doesn't self destruct as the vp44 will when the LP fails.
I think you did a fine job loading it. Better then alot of folks you see. Does your state require you to use that style binder or that your prefrence?
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 8:07pm |
chllngr528 wrote:
I should add that I love old 12Vs. If I had the extra cash I would have one. Also the thing about FP guage, thats my opinion and people will argu that they do need one. But failures are not to common when compared to vp44 trucks and the P7100 pump doesn't self destruct as the vp44 will when the LP fails.
I think you did a fine job loading it. Better then alot of folks you see. Does your state require you to use that style binder or that your prefrence? |
437 HP??!!! Boy I wish I had that!! But your MPG has to suck - So I guess I cant be too envious??
Not aware of any requirement, but I do prefer those binders. That other type scares me!
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 8:17pm |
I get about 16-17 out of tank on average with 50/50 mix of highway and city driving. If I get into her though I'm down in the 11-12 range.
I hate rachet binders personally. But I heard, and it maybe rumor, some states are making pressure binders illegal. Thats why I asked.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 8:39pm |
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Tom:
Do you ever try to tow your Allcrops. I bought a 72 about 70 miles from home and towed it home using an off-set hitch. Basically, from a trailer receiver insert we welded a square tube over to the right side of the truck and put the hitch for the pin coming off at right angles there. Held the square tube from sagging with a chain around the rear bumper. Allowed me to tow the Allcrop without riding over the center line (although the right wheel of the Allcrop rode on the shoulder at times). Worked really well-could maintain a good road speed. Has anyone else tried this idea.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2011 at 10:50pm |
did the tires ride up the bed or did the axle drag up? i used to haul my jd baler with the chamber side tire on deck and chain a rr tie under the frame on the header side and the tire hung off the bed of course i pulled it off to head down the road. my all crop was at my uncles about 3 miles away. with two bad tires i made a trip to town for tires first then kicked the tractor hitch sideways and drove home. thought alot about how to trailer one . was thinking of a dolly set up under the main axle made out of a couple trailer house axles then chain to the frame. it would give me electric brakes and as long as you are towing farm equipment overwidth should be ok. 
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:53am |
Dale wrote:
Tom:
Do you ever try to tow your Allcrops. I bought a 72 about 70 miles from home and towed it home using an off-set hitch. Basically, from a trailer receiver insert we welded a square tube over to the right side of the truck and put the hitch for the pin coming off at right angles there. Held the square tube from sagging with a chain around the rear bumper. Allowed me to tow the Allcrop without riding over the center line (although the right wheel of the Allcrop rode on the shoulder at times). Worked really well-could maintain a good road speed. Has anyone else tried this idea.
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Yes I have...if it is not too far to go. Yep that offest hitch has been mentioned and used, is a good idea.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:54am |
farmer0_1 wrote:
did the tires ride up the bed or did the axle drag up? i used to haul my jd baler with the chamber side tire on deck and chain a rr tie under the frame on the header side and the tire hung off the bed of course i pulled it off to head down the road. my all crop was at my uncles about 3 miles away. with two bad tires i made a trip to town for tires first then kicked the tractor hitch sideways and drove home. thought alot about how to trailer one . was thinking of a dolly set up under the main axle made out of a couple trailer house axles then chain to the frame. it would give me electric brakes and as long as you are towing farm equipment overwidth should be ok. |
I rolled it up with wheels on...with a 102" wide deck you can do it- just barely. Without it, it gets more complicated as you have explained.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:31am |
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It is amazing how hard those combines pull going down the road. Lots of wind resistance!
I do have to say, the hardest thing I have ever pulled down the road was a 1500lb boat lift with the canopy frame still on, extreme amount of wind resistance!!!
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 8:08am |
Matt MN wrote:
It is amazing how hard those combines pull going down the road. Lots of wind resistance!
I do have to say, the hardest thing I have ever pulled down the road was a 1500lb boat lift with the canopy frame still on, extreme amount of wind resistance!!! |
I know what you mean.
The most annoying thing I had to pull was a EMPTY 20' flat nose bumper pull enclosed trailer. It was a special order as it was I believe 9 ft tall on the inside. It was like pulling a giant kite behind me.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 12:21pm |
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What you did worked and that's what counts. I was able to get a 60 on a 102" trailer - with the tires barely on -- the jacked it up enough to get the weight off the tires, blocked it that way, and chained / racheted it down tight and drove home couple hundred mile, unblocked and rolled her off.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 2:34pm |
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Only thing I would have done differently Tom would be to add two more chain downs, one on each axle to give a more vertical pull down to the trailer.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 3:16pm |
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If you angle the front of them blocks about 30 degrees to the outside they would be lot more stable.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:01pm |
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Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:06pm |
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I'm just glad another AllCrop is being saved!! Ryan
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