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    Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 9:48am
Dad is failing and at age 90 that certainly can be expected.  He was in the hospital recently and is back out living alone (Mom passed 4 years ago) and thankfully with my brother close by. I try to see him each week for one evening but approaching spring I know I'll miss a few.  He drove the 8010 and 8070 discing last fall (a few hours/day) and the M3 combining soybeans .
I love to hear his stories even though I've heard them before. Just for memories here is a list of AC's owned by him over his farming career. 1930's unstyled WC, Styled WC, AC mounted picker, used on both, 60 all crop, 66 all crop, 90 all crop, 190 mounted picker, Gleaners E,K,M,M2,M3,  WD, 3 WD45's, Series 4 D17, 180D, 7000, 7020, various SC and 3 pt AC plows and disc's and cultivaters.  As I said he got to run the 80 series tractors my brother has.  I drove many of the above and he remembers stories on each one he owned.  Sorry for the long post but he is on my mind this morning.     
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I hear ya! I think dads are always on our minds in one way shape or form. My dad is still in good health, approaching 70, but i have been think alot of the "good ole days" myself
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Yep, dad will be 80 in august and as fit as any 60 year old. He started farming in 1949 straight out of high school. His first new tractor was a WD45 and has probably owned a dozen or more over his lifetime. My brother and I have carried on the tradition and between us probably own 20 WD and Wd45's between us. Dad was the rotobaler king back in the day, he could make that thing talk. He still helps my brother farm when they need an extra hand.
 
He has a bunch of sayings that I find myself repeating from time to time. One of my favorites is, "poor people have poor ways", usually pronounced when he was patching something together to get through the day rather than taking the time to make a proper repair.
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A wonderful story, remember these always.  Don't you wish you could write a book to tell the stories or get a recording while you can.




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I used to see my Dad 2 or 3 times a week. I would go watch Friday night Fights with him, even if I fell asleep before it was over. Saturday night there would always be some of my siblings at the house watching the Gaither Gospel show. Dad remarried a couple years after Mom passed and he moved to town. I didn't get to see him as much after that. I still miss him a lot. 
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I started a note book of his stories and many things he told me.  I need to catch it up.  I wish I had set up a movie camera to record some of it first hand.  But i didn't, so I'll stick with the notes.  I'm 60 and my 36 year old son loves to talk to him too,  I'll leave him the notes.  Jim
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John (C-IL) You tell your dad that I think he has got it wrong with "Poor people have poor ways". Tell him the one I live by "Learn to use what you have got, and you shall not need what you have not". It has served me well. I think I would like your dad and his old sayings.
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My dad and I were close, shared a love of machinery. He drove the tractor, I manned the bagger on the All Crop 60. After I went to college, he had to get a self-propelled combine (egads, a Massey 300). After school, and after I started my family, I tried to get to see him at least one day on the weekends. He dragged a lot of my tractor/machinery projects around from auctions, etc. because he had the truck and trailer.
 
I'm happy we got my first AC B together, and my first bagger All Crop 40.
 
He is gone 8 1/2 years now, but I miss him every day....
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I'm 46 now, but back in 6th grade we had to interview our grandparents or older folks that we knew with a tape recorder about their memories of growing up around Algona, Ia and Kossuth co. I got 45 minutes of my moms uncle on the tape. He pasted away maybe 25 years ago. Maybe 10 years ago, I played to tape for his kids at a family reunion. The tears were many when they once again heard their fathers voice. For the voice they heard was from a man still in the fall of life, instead of his winter. His speach was still good, but best of all, they again got to enjoy his laugher.

I feel for you D17 Jim.
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Even better was Grandma Schweizer. She lived to be 100 years and 6 months. She knew everyone of her relatives and their off spring, what they were doing and where they were. She kept every newspaper clip there ever was about anyone in the family.
 
Once, one of the family historians came to grandma's to tap the unlimited knowledge that grandma had about family, the world as she saw it and things in general. Well, after an hour or so the historian was resigned to the fact that mere note taking would not do the job so she asked if she could return later with a tape recorder.
 
When the day came grandma started up right where she had left off without missing a beat and continued on for an hour or so at which time she stopped and said, "I don't know why I am telling you this, I KNOW IT ALL!" Truely grandma at her best around 90 years old.
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A saying I heard a long time ago: Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
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Charlie, I used to date a girl that taught me that saying. Maybe it had a different meaning for me back in those days. LOL!
 
I don't get to see my folks nearly as much as I want to. I'm just in the road so much. I have taken some time off at the end of this month though. The fish should be biting by then, and the tractor will need the dust knocked off it to start putting in the garden. I am going to use what little time I have to see my grandmother, who is getting in very bad health, my mom, and my dad.
 
I have some of the families' history written down, and more that has been shared by other members, mostly on my grandmothers side. I have a compilation of letters from an ancestor on my grandmothers side that he wrote home during the Civil war. They were found in a basement in someones home. All still readable after all that time. A rare opportunity to see what was going on in my ancestors life and see it written in his own hand.
I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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Thanks for the stories Jim. I took my dad with me to look at a tractor. Just great going with my dad my son and my grandson. All love ACs. I was planning on going up there,thought last night,I ought to call dad and see if he wants to go. Never know how many of those you have left.
  JohnC   my dad says that all the time.    Poor people have poor ways
 
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Boy is this thread great.
  My Dad worked for Allis-Chalmers from the wd45 until the first year of agco.He saw a lot of changes.We wouldnt see him for most of each spring and never in the fall until hunting season.
  His 80th birthday was in January and he still feels ok.Still comes out often to help out (I am a shepherd and farmer).I value his friendship and experience.Together we have kept a fleet of old Allis tractors running & productive.It has been a ton of fun and a great education.
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My father died in 1989.  Twenty-two years ago.  I was fortunate to work with him for some 30 years.  We also met each other at least once a week till he died. 
I look back and enjoyed every moment we had together - well maybe almost every moment. 
Listen to your parents.  They seem to get smarter and more intersting with age.
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My father died when I was 9 months old.Along with the others on here that lost fathers very early, I believe I can say that those with fathers have no idea what treasures you have had growig up with a dad! My hope is that you can enjoy them for years and years. If you have sons, and daughters too, give to them all that you are so that they have treasures also!! God Bless you all!
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Yes Jim I understand how you feel and how you are thinking about times with your Dad. There isn't a day that slips past that I don't think of my Dad. I find peace in knowing I was lucky to have had a life sharing work and play with him.
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Without mothers and fathers there wouldn't be us -- wish mine were still around to see how well their grandkids turned out - in spite of  their father -- LOL.
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My Dad would whistle while he worked.  You could say he was at peace with farming in his day - 1950s-1960's -1970s.  I was a kid in the 60s-70s.  I rode the grain drill or 8 row JD planter checking seed boxes, sprockets, chains while he drove the D-17.  The crash of the federal land bank loans put him into a frazzled mood in 1979-1985.  I was in college at the time.  It hurt him to tell me that he could not help pay for any of my tuition then.  IRS audited him and hurt his paper work pride.  He always did a good job of keeping records.  They just stuck it to him for expenses he thought he was doing right.  My college days got along just fine between my parttime job & student loans.  My 3 older brothers bought Dad out during the late 80s - 90s and eased his bad loan debt.  Through it all, he fought the federal land bank and never gave in to their pushing to take over his grandma's 80 acre loan.  Today, my brother owns it, has tiled it, and still farms it with his sons.  Today, Dad is 83 and still hays & feeds calves round bales with his JD4240 cab tractor.  Last fall, I spent 4 days with he & mom scanning in old pictures for memories.  They were both great with accompanying stories of each snap shot.  I plan on doing continuing that effort.   I love my Dad & Mom.   
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wow unit 3 you bring back memories of my dad . my folks were from algona Ia. my grandparents lived just north of sexton. my dad bought a 36 WC brand new. at 93 my dad moved to town & when I bought my 34 WC , I told him about it & 30 mins later he was in my yard telling me all about the old WC. Town is 20 miles away. that year he drove that 34 in our show parade , prowd as a peacock, & died a few months later at 95. that was his last tractor ride.
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Here's what I'd do if I were you Jim. I'd get a tape recorder and get Dad started telling stories. Have plenty of tape with you. Once he's gone, it's all going to go with him. My Dad has been gone 8 years next week. I still find myself coming up with something and pick up the phone to tell him about it and then realize I can't anymore.
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Well, I hate to say it but my biological father is in prison. He was a good guy when off the drugs but that was rare from what I hear. Don't matter though. my "real" dad was my grandpa. He taught me everything I know and kept me out of trouble. Man some of the stories he and his friends would tell. He passed away in October after struggling with cancer since last February. He worked construction with the same guy for 32 years and worked as a janitor for 28. All 58 years he worked as a part time farmer. reading your guy's stories makes me feel as if I'm right there with the family i never got to have. Keep em coming guys.
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Dad passed last Feb, was 92.  Ill miss talking to him about the Crops,  and listening to his WW2 stories, thrashing stories, batchlor stories.  Im thankfull for the 60 years we had together!
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I was going to start a new post about my dad to give all an update but I guess I'll just add on to this one. Late last year I asked for prayers for the healing of his feet. He has had diabetes for 20+ years now and been dealing with an ulcered and infected left foot for about 8 years which just wouldn't heal. At the time I asked for prayers, his right foot had gotten an infected ulcer also stemming from a simple water blister. The infection progressed rapidly into the bone to the point where they were seriously considering amputating at least his right foot if not both. After a long hospital stay and being pretty much bedridden also at home after that, I got some great news the other day when he called. His doctor has finally classified his left foot as healed after all these years. They are still working with the right foot doing skin grafts over the flesh wound but the bone has healed. Hopefully they learned enough from the left so that the right doesn't take another 8 years. I keep reminding him that a little more patience now might pay off big as he is getting a little stir crazy but I think part of his problem before was that he just wouldn't stay off his feet. Now, he has a power chair so that he isn't walking on his bandaged feet with his crutches like he was before. I keep hoping that by June when the local tractor show is, he'll be able to walk around on his own two feet. I've put in for two weeks vacation to go up to NY to play with the old orange girls with him. I haven't made it there for the past few years and he hasn't felt up to it himself. I am so looking forward to the show and seeing him enjoy some seat time again. Thanks to all who sent prayers and well wishes. I miss the farm,the cows,and the tractors but what I miss the most is spending every day working alongside my dad. Thanks again and sorry for the long post.
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I saw Dad 2 nights ago and he is doing well once again.  He was telling about years ago when he and some neighbors went around and butchered for others.  Dad has always been a good shot and did the shooting of the pigs or steers.  They went to one place to butcher a steer and a young man went along.  The farmer told them to wait on the other side of the barn and he would drive the steer into that lot to shoot it.  The young man said he always wanted to shoot one so Dad handed him the rifle and said here's your chance. As the animal came around the barn the farmer yelled don't shoot as did Dad .  The kid was quick and dropped it like a rock.  But, it was the guys milk cow.  Dad said they butchered their first milk cow that day and laughed a lot about it after leaving and as he did telling it.  Farmer did not laugh I"m sure. I love those old stories. 
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My dad is 75 and as long as he is around i don't have much need for AC service manuals. He has forgotton more about them then i ever knew. And he has great  storys. I have 3 brothers and 2 sisters and somehow dad treats all of us like we are the only child.
 
If only i could freeze time.
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dave , I've got a 75 yr old brother thats a walking encyl. of AC. If he don't know it , you probably don't need to know it. wish we could hang onto this knowledge forever. this web site has lots & lots of that knowledge.
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I was thinking that one of these computer geeks could come up with a way that we could download dads memory bank and up load the info into mine. LOL
Until that happens this websit will have to do.
Either way no computer in the world could ever come close to learning from dad.
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My dad just turned 81.   Fell and shattered his hip this winter, so he just got home on Tuesday from rehab at a local home, now he's down to rehab 3 times a week.   I was an oops baby when mom and dad were 43 and 44,  so the age difference between me and my parents is similar to many people and their grandparents.   Dad was a city slicker that bought a farm and moved to the country, but my grandpa was an immigrant from Germany that worked as a kid on a farm in Germany so gramps had the experience of farming, just didn't have all of the machinery experience.  We almost lost dad 6 years ago to a bad stroke but the good Lord kept him around so he could get to know two new grandchildren.   My wife was pregnant with our first daughter and the night my dad had his stroke we were going to tell the whole family.   Ended up telling them all at the hospital.   Who knows, that might have been the thing that pushed my dad to recover.   As I'm tearing up just thinking of the old man, I dread the day the Lord takes him from all of us, but I also realize that the Lord has blessed us all with 6 years that we might have never had, and that every day he is around is a blessing for all of us.  
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As I said on an earlier post, my dad passed away when I was 9 months old. I have his 37 WC, which I learned to drive on and was my first "car"( used to get around to the neighbors and buddies houses and fishing holes). It's almost completely dismantled and has been for a few years. I started to restore it and realized I didn't know what or how to do it. Since I want to do it right, I've let it set until I could and would know enough to finish it correctly. I've done a Moline Z,Farmall H, and a 50 WD, and think that I finally know enough. He bought this tractor new, trading in a Farmll F-12 on steel, and some cash. Think the whole deal was around 700 dollars. I have the bill of sale somewhere. Since this is all I have of dad's you can see why I want to do it right.
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