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jawent 
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 11:36am |
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I have an Allis D-17 circa 1965. I was out plowing snow. It was cold (we've been down to -28 and -30), so I let it warm up a good 15 minutes or more before starting. At least an hour into the job, it quit. It didn't sputter like it was out of gas (which it isn't). It acted more like I turned the key off. It turns over, but that's it. I haven't had the opportunity to pull a plug and check to see if it's getting spark. I have replaced the distributor in the last 5 years because of an issue with the gears in the housing the distributor sits on stripping out. I know that the gears have NOT stripped out again because the distributor rotates. So, where do I go from here? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 12:08pm |
Before you try to check for spark at the plugs, check to see if you have 12 volts at the coil. It's unusual for the points, coil or condensor to fail unanounced while in action, but possible. A broken wire in the ignition circuit or a bad ignition swith are also possible.
And, even though you have fuel in the tank it is still possible that you are not getting fuel to the motor.
Edited by John (C-IL) - 24 Jan 2011 at 12:10pm
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JC-WI
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 1:11pm |
Like john said check for voltage at the coil, then check for voltage at dist. Hadone that the wire broke inside the insulation. Neighbor had one somebody had done a home repair to the wire at the resistor, (twist and tape) his would stop dead and then wait awhile and it woulod start. Found that and itnever let him down since. another D17 had the coild go dead and another time the dist. rotor was shorting out to the shaft. Had to walk home half mile to get another rotor so I could get back to disking.
Did you get ice in your gasline?
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 2:29pm |
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Yep, check for power with a test light on the battery side of the coil and while cranking the light should flicker on the dist side of the coil.
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KY
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 2:36pm |
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Check the points and condensor. You should see a spark each time the points fire with the cap off.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 4:44pm |
Usually when a tractor quits I look for condenser or Coil. Usually that will solve the problem. That said you are pushing snow in rather cold weather. A lot of things that are normally not a problem can happen.
Pay close attention to the above posts. They are on the right track.
Good Luck!
Bill long
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MilesGray (CO/KS)
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 4:57pm |
I had this happen on my C as I was mowing one day last summer, (yes I know, it was warm then) but something Bill just said about things that might go wrong in the cold, that wouldn't necessarily happen at other times has me thinking. I had my Governor weights explode into a million little pieces, it would still turn over, but i had no spark. The reason was because the timing gears had spun when the governor exploded and knocked the entire engine out of time, not just the distributor.
I hope this is not the case for you, and you can find relatively easy fix, like timing the distributor.
Does the distributor turn when you crank the engine? If it does, then most likely my problem is not yours... :-)
Miles
Edited by MilesGray (CO/KS) - 24 Jan 2011 at 4:58pm
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Miles Gray (CO/KS)
5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy!
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John In.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 4:33pm |
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It could be just a broken wire in the ignition switch, start out with the easyest fix first (;
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omahagreg
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Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 5:45pm |
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Do you have a resistor in your coil circuit? Our WD has been converted to 12V, and the resistor on the coil failed, and would not start for love nor money. Had to go to NAPA to find a jockey who knew what I was asking for, but fixed it really easy and quick!
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