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TomYaz 
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:37pm |
Just about done rebuilding the concave.
Reinforced the area the concave bars mount so as to prevent pull-thru.
Hope to have it mounted on the machine next Saturday,.
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AC WD45
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:46pm |
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That there is a good gas can in that last pic. Had one for years.
Edited by AC WD45 - 22 Jan 2011 at 5:46pm
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Bill Long
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:08pm |
That is one great restoration job. Congratulations!
Please keep us abreast of your progress.
Good Luck!
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:33pm |
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Tom is this a restoration or a completely new build.Love to see the pics of your progress.Glad to see someone is keeping the Allcrop tradition alive and kicking.
I know where the 72 that came off our farm is(rotting away in a shed),but don't know where I would keep it or what I would do with it.Oh maybe some day.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:40pm |
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Great photo my allcrop brother!! I've always wondered about something. Some allcrops could have a 2 row corn head on them. I'm thinking the concave area HAD to be reinforced somehow for the corn. What about filler bars or special add ons to keep cobs out of the cylinder?? I'm sure with that size grain bin even shelling one row at a time you couldnt go far in todays corn!! I still love em!!!! Ryan
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:42pm |
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Lookin good makes me want a wd-45 and a Allcrop!
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In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:49pm |
 Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:
Tom is this a restoration or a completely new build.Love to see the pics of your progress.Glad to see someone is keeping the Allcrop tradition alive and kicking.
I know where the 72 that came off our farm is(rotting away in a shed),but don't know where I would keep it or what I would do with it.Oh maybe some day. |
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Thanks. Restoration might be an understament, new build might be an overstatement.
I guess "remanufacture" might be better, but yes most of the metal here is new.
Little story today:
I got this machine last summer, had it working for my customer for his wheat. I had to put new tires. Tire & tube combo. Guy put a leak in it. So I went today to patch. Although I can patch a tube, I have no desire to wrestle the tire off. Couple shops I went to looked at me as If I asked them to do brain surgury. Went to NTB where I bought some road tires for a couple rims. Manager is cool dude. Remebered me and said we can do it-no charge just tip the tire guy. They had an "older guy" (gee my age) who knew about tubes. Came back later and said they couldnt find the leak! I went back and witnessed it. Talking to the guy turns out he is from a farm familiy and father has an All-Crop! They run all AC stuff! Looking to sell out in a couple years. Might be buying that all-crop. Anyway put the tube back on and sure enough when under pressure it started to leak!@#!!...Mr. Fix a Flat then fixed the tire ...Wasnt going to drive out 45 min to get another tube....
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:51pm |
Ryan Renko wrote:
Great photo my allcrop brother!! I've always wondered about something. Some allcrops could have a 2 row corn head on them. I'm thinking the concave area HAD to be reinforced somehow for the corn. What about filler bars or special add ons to keep cobs out of the cylinder?? I'm sure with that size grain bin even shelling one row at a time you couldnt go far in todays corn!! I still love em!!!! Ryan |
Yes that reinforcement I added was recommended for corn. Yes there were filler bars too. Even an extra-heavy cylinder bar. I have wondered if a standard rasp bar could be made to work instead of the rubber coated one for corn...
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:55pm |
Tom,
I'm watching this with interest, as you know I have a concave sitting here waiting for a little warmer weather and I'm wondering about the one piece replacement for the left side since there are some corrosion issues there on my 72.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:56pm |
Dave in il wrote:
Tom,
I'm watching this with interest, as you know I have a concave sitting here waiting for a little warmer weather and I'm wondering about the one piece replacement for the left side since there are some corrosion issues there on my 72. |
Dave,
You talking about the patch? Was I supposed to be shipping you one?...Hope I didnt drop the ball....
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:13pm |
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The patch?? You talking birth control or a smokers issue??
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:27pm |
Ryan Renko wrote:
The patch?? You talking birth control or a smokers issue?? |
In talking about the decal you may never get....
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:27pm |
No Tom, we're all sqared away.
I got the full concave. My plan is to pull the cylinder & stripper bars and have the old concave sand blasted and primed, and see what is solid, then put the new one over it. But as I look under the machine it looks worse than I thought.
I know I'll need some belts and misc parts when I get started, and if you have the one piece replacement for the left side I might consider one too.
Keep showing us how it's done! LOL
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 8:08pm |
Dave in il wrote:
No Tom, we're all sqared away.
I got the full concave. My plan is to pull the cylinder & stripper bars and have the old concave sand blasted and primed, and see what is solid, then put the new one over it. But as I look under the machine it looks worse than I thought.
I know I'll need some belts and misc parts when I get started, and if you have the one piece replacement for the left side I might consider one too.
Keep showing us how it's done! LOL |
Boy Dave I can really be dense...your talking about the side panel....The one I made was
hand made off the original..only one I got...I would like to have some laser cut someday but I dont need to repeat my sob story of limited capital...
Right now I am getting two gaskets made for the gear box. One is cork looks like a washer the other a paper one. I got a batch of felt seals for the wheels made already.
All three of these seals you cant get from AGCO anywhere anymore, I got the last NOS
copies of them and saved them as templates to make the new ones.
Next on the list is to get grain drag bars, and sickle bars.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 9:58pm |
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Nice Tom.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2011 at 7:01am |
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I have enjoyed following your progress, nice job!
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Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 3:56pm |
Tom: I put an aircraft tire on my 72! No more leaks from that tire. You can get them from these guys already on the rim pretty reasonably. Shipping may kill you though: http://www.noflats.com/tires.htmI was given my tire locally so it was a reasonable fix. I can check the size if you want to look around for them. Also i have had very good luck with the green Slime stuff that everybody sells.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 4:37pm |
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You do great work!
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If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done!
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Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 8:41am |
Rawleigh wrote:
Tom: I put an aircraft tire on my 72! No more leaks from that tire. You can get them from these guys already on the rim pretty reasonably. Shipping may kill you though:
http://www.noflats.com/tires.htm
I was given my tire locally so it was a reasonable fix. I can check the size if you want to look around for them.
Also i have had very good luck with the green Slime stuff that everybody sells.
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But I think I will just stick with tubeless that I can get locally- far less hassle.
If I ever go to those road speed axles, I will get the road tires.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 8:43am |
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You do great work! |
Thanks but I do little of the skilled work...I have the vision and tell my fab man what to do. Gettting real good at electroylisis and writing checks!
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Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 9:05am |
Something to bounce off you guys....
I had sheet metal made for the seperator..Problem is it was made very thick...Lot heavier and will make combine back heavy. Didnt want to use this but hate to throw away the $$$...
Wonder if I should use it anyway as I hate to outlay the $$ again for the right metal...By rights I should ask for the right metal at no charge, but not sure whos fault the bad communication. Using this "bad" metal would eliminate all the vertical support angle irons...look cooler, but dont think its good for marketing...."Yeah heres what a rebuilt combine looks like EXCEPT that seperator will NOT look like that..."
Thoughts?
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Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 9:30am |
First, is this a customers combine or one your building for your self? I'd say it would be the customers desicion.
Second, if it's your machine use it, it's a prototype and you can say it's heavier than the prodution piece so you could leave the supports off so people can see what they're getting. LOL
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Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 9:38am |
Dave in il wrote:
First, is this a customers combine or one your building for your self? I'd say it would be the customers desicion.
Second, if it's your machine use it, it's a prototype and you can say it's heavier than the prodution piece so you could leave the supports off so people can see what they're getting. LOL |
Its my customers machine, but since I am going well beyond what he paid for, its my call. I think you mean leave the supports on, not off...yes thats a good idea...maybe use velcro...
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Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 12:11pm |
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Tom, that is looking good!!! I would put the beefier part on. As long as you don't get carried away, just put some lead weight under the tongue.
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