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HD4 and 653 dozer
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    Posted: 26 Jan 2026 at 1:19pm
what is the difference the HD4 and the 653 dozer, are parts still available for these and why didn't Allis use the little 4 cylinder diesel in more of their tractors? Are these dozers hard to work on and what can you expect to pay for one in good shape?
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Main difference is 653 is pedal steer. HD4 is lever steer. Great little machines. Part are getting harder to find. Price is what you feel comfortable paying. HTH Tracy
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is that one in your profile picture? thanks for the info.
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The same engine was use in cotton pickers but the HP was upped to I believe 85 HP 
Ran into mechanic down in Indiana at GM truck shop who did work on the 2200 and said they could put out a lot more HP with some work and I believe he said with turbo used and changes to pump . 
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