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Topic: C with rare plowPosted: 04 Jan 2011 at 4:15pm |
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http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/grd/2131878320.html
Looks to be a rare double plow. Nice tractor and plow for the price.
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JohnCO
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Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 4:27pm |
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Looks just like the one we had nearly 50 years ago, except ours had a single front wheel. Perhaps the two way plows were more popular in the irrigated parts of the country.
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BILLP-SE-MI
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 5:06pm |
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Here's my C with a single bottom disc plow.
Have a good one. BILL P
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 5:29pm |
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That one on craiglist appears to have the short steering arms. Does that help date the tractor? Charlie
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 5:38pm |
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Short arm should be early, 1940 or 1941 maybe. |
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 5:49pm |
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Thanks Lonnie
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 8:00pm |
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Hey, just down the road from my inlaws.....
Those plows are pretty common out here. I gave $20 for my last set...but they have been welded up. Another set (hand lift) came with on a C nf, which I bought with a sf C and adjustable front B w/two way plows and front axle weights for a total of $800 (used to be owned by Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan). I have another nice set that came with a WD45 and AC 3pt adaptor for $500 total. I think I have another set, but can't remember where they came from. John I think a lot of veggie growers (single front wheel) and flood irrigators used the 2 way plows to keep their fields flat...jmho
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Reeseholler
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 10:28pm |
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sorry for being young and stupid but I'm here to learn. What exactly are disc plows used for? were they more for turning over mud?
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 10:35pm |
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The disc plows worked great for breaking new soil if you had rocks or tree stumps as they will swing around them. They also work good in trashy ground.
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 10:36pm |
I believe they were designed to be used in freshly cleared ground where one might encounter tree roots or large rocks. The disk plow will raise up over them as opposed to a moldboard catching them and breaking something or just plain hanging up the tractor. I wish I had a disk plow but they are fairly difficult to fing in useable condition at an affordable price.
Hope that helps but if someone says I am wrong disregard my statement,
Denis
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 10:37pm |
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Eldon types faster than me, but at least we agree.
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morton(pa)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 11:01pm |
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Don't really think the 2 way plow is rare. I picked mine up for the B easily and have heard of a couple sets for sale over the years.
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JohnCO
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 12:48am |
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Eldon,
I've seen several sets of AC 2 way plows here in Colo, never saw them in Ohio but I was a little kid back then. I've read (here) that there were only 600 C's with the single front. I find that hard to believe because I've seen at least 1/60th of them. They were popular for cultivating sugarbeets and dry beans around here. I plowed a lot of gardens and yards around here with the C and two way plow when I was 45 years younger. |
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GlenninPA
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 2:04pm |
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I hope 2 way plows are rare, because I bought them cheap, by the pallet full.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 4:09pm |
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After WWII we sold a lot of 2 way plows for the C in our area. Funny, but the only plow er could get was the left hand plow. So - don't forget this is right after WWII and things are really scarce - we mounted the left hand plow with 2 way hyds and the customoers reluctantly plowed with them till we got the RH plow year or two later. Then we mounted that and it brought the plow to battery.
Long winded but that reminded me of what we did then.
Good Luck!
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Brian G. NY
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 6:36pm |
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My Dad had the 2-way plows on his B. Altho the early ones were lifted mechanically, his had hydraulics. A little lever on the front side of the seat controlled which plow was being lifted.
I always thought that extra plow put some weight right where it could best be used.
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tomdavison
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 7:30pm |
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I do not believe the 2 way plows are rare. We had a set we bought in 1942. Others also had them around here. Nifty plows on a C, but a little light for sod and hard soils.
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 9:20pm |
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Well, they might not be rare where you guys are, but they're dang near nonexistent down here. Eldon, some people have all the luck. Glenn, you could have mentioned the pallet full or two thing before I bought the #4 plow. LOL! Actually, I would be better off with the trailer plow for ease of changing jobs, or I could just buy another tractor. LOL!
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I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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GlenninPA
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011 at 6:36am |
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Dream,
You didn't ask..... LOL I have plows, drawbars, brackets, for the C, but no rockshafts or depth adjustments. I think Ed does though....
I'm probably overstocked on B plows, but like I said, I'm a hoarder.
Glenn
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011 at 8:42am |
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I have 2 pair of 2 way plows for my G. A pair of 325's and a pair of 125's.
My book shows plows with the bullet points for the G, I've never seen one but would like to have one. Or better yet a pair of them. Dusty
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Dave Everett
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011 at 12:30pm |
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i would REALLY like one of thos disc ploughs !!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011 at 12:36pm |
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if its got the proper rock shaft & everything it should be worth that kind of money. I'm still looking for the proper rockshaft & mounts for a C & B double plows i have. Not very comon around here.
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GlenninPA
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011 at 12:40pm |
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I got all the rockshafts for my plows off ePay.....
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