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Rick of HopeIN 
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 Topic: Degreasing Brake Bands
Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 9:33pm |
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My old WC has 'well lubricated' brake bands. I guess the old brake linings have become hard to find so band replacement or relining is no longer a cheap or easy solution. Everything appears to be fine mechanically.
Is the any way to get back down to a good friction surface (solvent, sanding, etc.) and restore the function? ... they don't seem worn very bad.
I went ahead and ordered a band for one side but they are pricey so it may try to salvage the other side.
Thanks for any advice. I am starting to like working with the old 1937 parts, stuff looks like it was built to last in those days.
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WC7610
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 9:52pm |
Hi Rick,
I ran into this last summer. Cleaned one up with brake cleaner and sent another to Tony Carbaugh as an exchange core for another with new liner.
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kevin LA-CA
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Posted: 04 Jan 2011 at 10:53pm |
If they are oil or grease soaked (also brake fluid) a propane torch (acetylene works better) can be used to burn out the contaminant. Make sure all the oil is out, otherwise it will work slowly back to the surface. Only works with riveted linings (some cars use bonded).
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 5:15am |
I would just reline both sides ,then you do not have to worry about no brakes later .What do you use the tractor for.
If I do a brake job for a customer in my shop ,I reline them ,the time it takes to try and get them clean and taking a chance that the oil will still not all be out is not worth the trouble ,time to parts makes sence to replace.
Your tractor your call .
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Bret (OH)
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 5:21am |
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Don't overlook the need to repair the reason the linings are "well lubricated", or your brake reline won't be worth the effort.
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 8:41am |
I'm wit' my pal Fred. My G that I'm working on and off of had the brakes frozen on one side, and half a lining on the other. Tony C. fixed me up with a set of new linings and return springs. A good glassbeading of the shoes, add the new linings, and we're lookin' good! Drums were okay, so a little crosshatch sand job was in order, and the ole' girl is back together. When it comes to brakes, don't mess around. Tractor brakes aren't the best to start off with, so do it right. You may need em' in a hurry one day and need all the stopping power they can give. You'll never get all the oil out of the old linings...
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 8:47am |
What everyone has said here has held true for me. Tried a couple times to be elcheapo and cook the oil out with a torch and solvents but in short order, usualy the first time they are used hard and get warmed up, the oil rises to the surface and your back to no brakes.
Fixing the leaks and relining is the only fix.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 8:56am |
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Steiners has brake linings for $17.50 I'm sure others have similar deals. That doesn't seem expensive to me if you consider using a couple cans of brake kleen and your time at trying to clean them.
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JohnS.
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 8:59am |
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We were told that the new lining (non asbestos) brake clean will work ok. The older asbestos linings will hold the oil in the linings.
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Dave Everett
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 10:27am |
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Big question is with brakes and being cheap. As Fred says, How much is your life worth?
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Rawleigh
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 11:50am |
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I agree. Moving is optional, stopping is not!!!
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Rick of HopeIN
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Posted: 05 Jan 2011 at 4:56pm |
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Thanks all, on the B I did both sides (about 4 years back) and the price was pretty reasonable as you mentioned. My first check on WC brake linings or bands I got sticker shock but I will look into it some more. The axle seals were gone so they will be replaced.
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ASEguy
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Posted: 07 Jan 2011 at 5:32am |
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Amen to that. Replace them.
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