7010 stopped moving

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   My son was driving around the field just fine.  Stopped to adjust the cultivator to bring it back home.  Went from lo 4th to high 4th to drive on the road.  It started to move and then just stopped.  

No grinding of gears.  It feels like it is going into gear on both hi/lo and individual gears.  A few weeks ago, I bought a new clutch cable and installed it but the clutch pressure feels good so I don't think it has to do with that.  We have driven it quite a bit since changing the clutch cable.  

I don't know if this is meaningful but I can put the hi/lo and park shift lever into each gear without pushing on the clutch with the motor running.  While in gear, I did rev the motor up to see if it would even creep forward or backward but it does not move.  It does shake a bit when I rev the engine which may be meaningful.  I did check the transmission fluid and it has fluid showing on the dipstick.  

I find it really odd that it just stopped all of a sudden.  Nothing prior to this indicated there was any kind of transmission problem or anything going bad.  I need some ideas on how to debug this further.  This is a power director 16 speed.  

My first idea is that it has to do with hi/lo.  I changed the hi/lo cable two years ago so it is a new cable.  Because it started to move and stopped when he changed from hi to lo, makes me think it is hi/lo problem.  Could it be stuck in between hi/lo?  

Any help is appreciated!

Edited by calico190xt68 - 16 hours 29 minutes ago at 6:06pm

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calico190xt68 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2017 Location: Frankton, IN Points: 854	Post Options Post Reply Quote calico190xt68 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 7010 stopped moving Posted: 16 hours 36 minutes ago at 5:59pm
	My son was driving around the field just fine. Stopped to adjust the cultivator to bring it back home. Went from lo 4th to high 4th to drive on the road. It started to move and then just stopped. No grinding of gears. It feels like it is going into gear on both hi/lo and individual gears. A few weeks ago, I bought a new clutch cable and installed it but the clutch pressure feels good so I don't think it has to do with that. We have driven it quite a bit since changing the clutch cable. I don't know if this is meaningful but I can put the hi/lo and park shift lever into each gear without pushing on the clutch with the motor running. While in gear, I did rev the motor up to see if it would even creep forward or backward but it does not move. It does shake a bit when I rev the engine which may be meaningful. I did check the transmission fluid and it has fluid showing on the dipstick. I find it really odd that it just stopped all of a sudden. Nothing prior to this indicated there was any kind of transmission problem or anything going bad. I need some ideas on how to debug this further. This is a power director 16 speed. My first idea is that it has to do with hi/lo. I changed the hi/lo cable two years ago so it is a new cable. Because it started to move and stopped when he changed from hi to lo, makes me think it is hi/lo problem. Could it be stuck in between hi/lo? Any help is appreciated! Edited by calico190xt68 - 16 hours 29 minutes ago at 6:06pm
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21452	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 hours 3 minutes ago at 7:32pm
	The most important question: does the power steering work?? YES or NO.

calico190xt68 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2017 Location: Frankton, IN Points: 854	Post Options Post Reply Quote calico190xt68 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 hours 55 minutes ago at 8:40pm
	Power Steering is NOT working. I turned tractor on and tried to turn the steering wheel right and left and it put up a lot of resistance and did not turn the front wheels. Does this imply that the hydraulic pump has failed? That would be way better than the power director failing. I can check the hydraulic fluid too. I don't see a leak though. I looked at the cables in the floor and they all work as expected and are attached. Edited by calico190xt68 - 13 hours 54 minutes ago at 8:41pm
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21452	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 hours 31 minutes ago at 9:04pm
	The torque limiter on the flywheel has failed.

calico190xt68 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2017 Location: Frankton, IN Points: 854	Post Options Post Reply Quote calico190xt68 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 hours 11 minutes ago at 9:24pm
	That does not sound good. I assume the tractor has to be split? Can you buy a torque limiter? About what would that cost to fix if you were to do it?
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21452	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 hours 57 minutes ago at 11:38pm
	Tractor must be split just ahead of the cab. Costs vary depending on what one does. I usually replace the rear crankshaft seal and pull the Power Director clutch out and reseal it too. Flat rate labor for all that about 12 to 15 hrs. Or you could roll it apart and replace the T.L. clutch disc only and throw it back together. Labor then about 8 hrs and parts maybe $500 bucks ??. Haven't done one in a long time and after four years of nothing but inflation, I have no idea what parts cost anymore.