Dairy equipment cleaner/acid

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Hope everyone is well, I haven't done much but read and listen here lately!

I have an odd situation. I'm helping to clean up an old dairy farm and have come across what I believe to be the cleaner acid used to flush the pipes after milking. 

The labels are SHOT and best I can say is some of it came from Westfalia (now defunct?) I can post some photos if it will help, but they are about 15 gallon jugs of the stuff. 

Local 'haz mat' recyclers (the ones run by the state where you bring your stuff to a collection center) hasn't been too helpful, and they consider what I have "industrial quantities"

all of that said, how do you get rid of it? water it down? mix it somehow? I want to do the responsible thing, but I just keep hitting a dead end

Please and Thank You!

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Rusty Allis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Access Joined: 16 Jul 2020 Location: Rhode Island Points: 157	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rusty Allis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Dairy equipment cleaner/acid Posted: 5 hours 59 minutes ago at 3:00pm
	Group! Hope everyone is well, I haven't done much but read and listen here lately! I have an odd situation. I'm helping to clean up an old dairy farm and have come across what I believe to be the cleaner acid used to flush the pipes after milking. The labels are SHOT and best I can say is some of it came from Westfalia (now defunct?) I can post some photos if it will help, but they are about 15 gallon jugs of the stuff. Local 'haz mat' recyclers (the ones run by the state where you bring your stuff to a collection center) hasn't been too helpful, and they consider what I have "industrial quantities" all of that said, how do you get rid of it? water it down? mix it somehow? I want to do the responsible thing, but I just keep hitting a dead end Please and Thank You!

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DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53407	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 5 hours 36 minutes ago at 3:23pm
	Us there another dairy around? You might try giving it away to them, or maybe a for free ad on craig's list. I doubt the acid is very strong, stuff I am familiar with isn't much stronger than bleach...
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	Do you know any trucker that has an aluminum trailer? That pipeline acid works great cleaning aluminum.
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Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41866	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 4 hours 54 minutes ago at 4:05pm
	https://proton-direct.co.uk/public/2018/07/Milk-Line-Cleaner-JAV002.pdf Above is the MSDS sheet for caustic base By listing name of company and if acid or base solution you can probably find similar product . IT looks like it has some worth for resale - but finding that buyer - or place to dispose properly - ??? Around here we have a recycling center - run by county that takes items , from paint to household materials - now 3 jugs at a time might be household rather then industrial MSDS for acid base cleaner https://www.webstaurantstore.com/documents/sds/sds_hp1510011.pdf?srsltid=AfmBOopIkxNFEJfMm9YkJE3uqq0MFPVx4Iokq4DO_uMlSX6YQy_mUcAa Edited by Coke-in-MN - 4 hours 52 minutes ago at 4:07pm
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	Westfalia, westfalia- surge are all now part of GEA farm technologies. Acid rinse is mostly phosphoric acid. I suppose you could use it as rust remover. I should add here never ever mix with bleach, clorine gas can be a killer. Edited by Riprock - 3 hours 27 minutes ago at 5:32pm

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	Phosphoric Acid in a strong mix can etch glass , in full strength it will eat through bottle right at top of air liquid line - use to use it to clean floors in coating area and left a container sit 1/2 full , next day went to pick it up and only had top half of jug . Bad stuff in high strength as will eat into calcium - like bones if you get it on hands . Milk is one of the neutralizers for contamination . It will also etch Titanium metal which resists most acids (in high strength)
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