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KouryFarms 
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:38am |
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I’m looking to buy a small tractor for my market garden to belly mount cultivators. A friend has a Farmall cub and suggested I try finding one but the allis b keeps grabbing my attention instead. My question is, how is the visibility from the driver’s seat ? I know the Farmall is offset. Is the wide double seat on the allis better? Or at least comparable? Other option would be to find a g model but like the versatility of a b model better. Thanks, George
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:19am |
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When I was young I cultivated a lot of corn with a B and it did a pretty decent job.Couple of negatives is as you said the visibility factor and 1st gear is too fast especially very small plants.A G is pretty good if it has the extra low gear.The Farmalls are very good because of the visibilty and there are a huge number of accessories available like side dressers,planters,etc.For cultivating I now use a Hines H-1600 which is the best tractor I have ever used to cultivate vegetable type crops,its very much like a G but much improved.It has hydrostatic drive,hydraulic lift with different controls for front and back.The implements go on and off quickly,very comforatable to get on and off,uses 24 inch rear tires.The Tuff Bilt tractors sold now are basically a clone of the Hines.
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jvin248
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Posted: 21 hours 6 minutes ago at 7:53pm |
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Gs and Cubs tend to be expensive, Bs are cheap and plentiful.
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mdm1
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Go look at all 3 if you can. Everything about a G is spendy. But B's can be tough to get on and off of. As said lots of B's around and much cheaper. I think most G's have the creeper gear. Hey just a thought buy a couple. That's what most of us end up doing
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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KouryFarms
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Posted: 20 hours 34 minutes ago at 8:25pm |
Thank you for the great info. The creeper gear on the g is an interesting topic. I certainly wouldn’t mind owning one of each ! … 
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Les Kerf
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Posted: 19 hours 37 minutes ago at 9:22pm |
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... But B's can be tough to get on and off of... |
Amen to that! Those of us who are pushing 70 have to think about whether or not we really NEED to get on that tractor. My 14 year old grandson bounces on and off my Model C like a monkey. Ah, those were the days 
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Posted: 18 hours 56 minutes ago at 10:03pm |
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I cultivated a couple acres of potatoes with a B. You can make most any type of shovel, spring tooth or finger weeder work on the factory cultivator. I even had the hiller
discs from China mounted to it. Only issue I had was it bein pretty fast in 1st. Maybe shorter tires would’ve helped? If you hold out for a CA, it’ll have a 4 speed and be 1/2 mph slower in low gear.
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KouryFarms
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Posted: 10 hours 47 minutes ago at 6:12am |
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I’d like to try adding the newer Timor cultivating equipment to the older tractor.
Appreciate having ground speeds pointed out. My farm is mostly short rows. Too fast in 1st and I’ll run out of row before I even begin.
Ground speeds from the Nebraska tests:
B in 1st is 2.50 mph
G in 1st 2.25 mph
G in special low 1.6 mph
CA in 1st is 2.0 mph
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 10 hours 15 minutes ago at 6:44am |
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If your rows are that short you might want to look into some of the really good walk behind garden tractors built by AC/Simplicity over the years
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dkattau
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Posted: 9 hours 55 minutes ago at 7:04am |
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I cultivate two rows at a time in the garden with my CA. It has enough hp that I can throttle way back to what I’m guessing is less than 1.5 mph.
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wjohn
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Posted: 8 hours 35 minutes ago at 8:24am |
I'd point out that most Bs have the standard wide front end, which isn't adjustable other than being able to flip the offset of the wheel disk around on the hub. There are some out there with the optional adjustable wide front end, though.
What sort of spacing between rows are you planning to cultivate?
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wade89
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Posted: 8 hours 20 minutes ago at 8:39am |
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Another consideration is any other equipment you’re using. For example, my B was used for a one row potato planter and a one row picker that both started life horse drawn. The rows were wider back then as they didn’t irrigate or fertilize and I was able to guess approximate yields and planting rates off historical U of M articles. Grew them that way as they were “close to organic” and had people lined up to sell direct out of the ground as fast as I dug them.
However my green beans I use a narrow front CA with a different amalgamation of equipment.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 2 hours 54 minutes ago at 2:05pm |
George, first off “welcome to the Forum.” You can get lots of great information here and probably a bit of bull also. Both the B and the G are great tractors but for me the B is a lot more versatile, just not as good at cultivating. I grew up on a B and WD and still have a B (not running right now) with a few odds and ends. I’m probably not too far from you, off US129 between Athens and Jefferson.. Joe M up in Cumming is the G expert. Super great guy and very knowledgeable. If he sees your post I am sure he will chime in.
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thendrix
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Posted: 2 hours 38 minutes ago at 2:21pm |
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Welcome from another Georgian. I'm in Fairmont. You might also look into a tuffbilt or Thomas built as they started out. They're basically a G with hydrostatic drive. I think they're what became the Timore. I believe a Hines was mentioned earlier, it's basically the same thing. The tuffbilt maybe a little more rudimentary then the Hines or the G. I have a tuffbilt but mine is not as easy to get on and off as it could be
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jvin248
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Posted: 1 hour 39 minutes ago at 3:20pm |
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I have a long narrow garden patch. What I've done is angle the rows like herringbone parking lot lanes. That way I can stretch individual rows out to as long as I want and still have a lot of individual rows: /////////// instead of llllllllll. Might help you with longer cultivating runs.
You might tune the B down to idle super low on low gear if that base gear is too fast.
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Edited by jvin248 - 1 hour 36 minutes ago at 3:23pm
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