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    Posted: Yesterday at 9:58am
I am rebranding my Fiat-Allis 11-B tractor back to Allis-Chalmers HD-11 Series B. With exception of actual stampings in cast parts, nothing else will reference Fiat in any shape, nor form. I'm on the hunt for actual font and sizing that would have been used prior to 1/1/1974 in the production of these tractors so I can have screens made to replicate the task. Though nothing is bent, all sheet metal is going to be paint stripped, surface imperfections repaired, (rust pitting), and repainted as close to an original construction yellow, or Persian Orange I can mix. Undecided on the color in reality as I had seen both on brand brand new tractors at the plant.

If someone has sheet metal with the original font in place, good clear photos with a yardstick, (example) taped in place to show size would work well.

Thanks in advance for any assist.


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Dont have the SPEC... but this shows the size relative to the hood..


Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Thanks Steve; Don't remember seeing that one in the past on the battery box side panel. "Series B" was always spelled out that I remember. However, your post may contain enough information to scale from for the hood. I don't know the font myself but the screen printer lady I use is very sharp on things like that. 

The photo is the reference I've been using.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5 hours 43 minutes ago at 8:42am
Im not sure i have seen a tractor with the "series B" in letters... Wonder if that was a short term thing in the beginning or end.. or photo op ??

also the "AC" Logo on the side of the radiator wrap around ??


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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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I don't know about the AC logo on the hard nose either but I've seen a couple with the "Series B" spelled out. I took that photo from an original 1972, or 1973 printed pamphlet/brochure I've had since about then. I know in 1973 the change from double to single top roller was made unless ordered with the two roller style.

The pamphlet photo font differs on the hood from your photo a bit also.

Lot's of changes with Fiat in the mix so who knows. 
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also the paint color... You book photo shows a bright deep yellow color that was common about 1970.... You FA photo and my photo show the dark dirty dull yellow that was common by 1980 and into the FIAT years.
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