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VW has gotten Complicated!!

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    Posted: 14 Feb 2025 at 6:26am
Retiree from the Nuke and ex co-worker bought a VW Toureg Hybrid used two years ago, was a Demonstrator and got what he thought a Great Deal, Starter died so had it hauled to VW, NOT Under Warranty BTW.  Spent $6700 to replace the 'Starter Mechanism'.  Requires the removal of the Engine/Transmission and connection equipment to the Hybrid Motor drive as the Starter/Generator system is installed as a Clutch and Trans unit behind the engine not on a side.

Needless to say was LIVID as to that cost.  Wrote VW USA and got a semi-OK response where issued a repair credit for 1/3 the cost, still he has decided to stop being stupid where is currently trading that in on a Conventional Toureg.


Edited by DMiller - 14 Feb 2025 at 6:28am
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Pretty sure 'engineers' are told by the 'bean counters' to make  it that way !
If I was to buy almost ANYTHING 'complicated', I'd scour the internet for a WEEK to see 'what's wrong with and  what does it cost' responses....

Retiree should write VW Germany and get another 1/3rd back !!!

from a C&D article...
With a 14.3-kWh battery, the Touareg PHEV has an EV range of 31 miles on the Euro WLTP cycle—that would translate to about 26 miles using EPA methodology. That's decent, but not great. The electric propulsion is seamlessly integrated,

wow get maybe 26 miles from the battery !! That's rediculous ! I couldn't go to the other side of town and back on the battery ??? !!!!!
or did I google the wrong car ?




Edited by jaybmiller - 14 Feb 2025 at 6:37am
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Tell me again why everyone else has been conned into having the "latest and greatest" of the newer vehicles.
  I can lift the hood on any vehicle I own and look right at the starter and replacing any of them would take less than an hour. 
  I can imagine someone in one of the new crapcars that shuts of at a red light, getting a big surprise when it doesn't re-start when the light turns green and their car just sits there. Newer is only better for the car companies.   
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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

  I can imagine someone in one of the new crapcars that shuts of at a red light, getting a big surprise when it doesn't re-start when the light turns green and their car just sits there.  

I did not know such a thing existed until a few weeks ago.

I was at a family get-together over Christmas and the whole bunch of them (except me) were complaining as to how their new vehicles would shut themselves off whenever they came to a temporary stop, such as at a light or intersection.


I mean, it wasn't just one of them warning the others off from such; like sheep jumping off a cliff, they all just couldn't wait to run out and buy one.

Then, myself and my cousin had to make a trip to see a dead man in the hospital a hundred or so miles away and we took his brand-new shiny Chevrolet pickup.

That thing like to have made me a nervous wreck = the engine would shut off every time we came to a stop --- EVERY TIME ---

My many many years of driving experience has been that, once that engine fires and is running, you DON'T shut it off until you get back home.


They all make fun of me while I refuse to play along; my newest vehicle is a 1991 Dodge/Cummins and the one I drive every day is a 1985 F-350; I renewed the plate on the F-350 the other day and the property tax was 0.85 - 85-cents --- and I would not hesitate to take it coast to coast with a big load of cattle.


Another thing that gets me about people's lack of good mathematical sense; they will get a job in town 30- or 40-miles away; and, the first thing they will do is run out and buy some little crap car to save on gas, thus completely negating any advantage the new job was going to provide and now they have to drive some little death-trap back and forth every day, instead of the half-way decent pickup truck that they already had bought-and-long-paid-for.

When something happens to the little death-trap car, they can't afford to fix it; and, the good vehicle they already had gets let to run-down on account of they don't drive it so much anymore; and, now, they need another job to help pay for getting back and forth to that job that caused all this problem in the first place.

Plus, having to drive the little death-trap gets their belly all in knots and they arrive at work already nervous and worn-out from the drive and are hateful the rest of the day to everyone else and go home hateful and eat their supper hateful and go to bed hateful until their wife gets fed up with it and starts sneaking around and then gets a divorce and demands child support payments to keep up her and her new man and all this trouble goes directly back to their idiotic decision to save on gas.


Look at it this way --- most vehicles that most people already have --- providing that they predate all this electronic computer-controlled foolishness --- you can spend the equivalent of one or two car payments on them and make them into a much better vehicle than the one you were going to make payments on.
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UUUH, the wife;s Toyo has a button that deactivates the shut down at stop lights Wink
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Buck your giving most of the people in the gas saver more credit than I think they deserve. Most in those death traps are the fastest drivers on the country roads. They act invincible. But the rest is spot on.

My son was given a deal he could not pass up on 2017 Ford 150 with the super gas mileage that will still haul a ton. If you read up to know just which button to push, and do it every time you start it that auto kill/start is turned off.
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Our Ford Escape also has a button you push to make it not shut off at every stop.
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Most vehicles have the override button to stop the auto shutoff. It's the first thing I hit when driving the wife's Chevy Equinox.
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