Throwback Tractors

Just for fun which tractor do you think AGCO should bring back (we can dream). New Holland's 8N don't look a lot like the old 8N but it is a start on the concept of throwback tractors. I think it would be cool to make an AGCO WD45 with all the bells and whistles because Allis-Chalmers focused on the small and medium sized farms in their early years and because it would be nice to bring the symbol of AC into the 21st century.

New Holland's 8N with Ford 8N in background

A D-15 III with Live Hydraulic ( like a D-17 IV )

I agree with Gary and have live power and hydralic`s with 2-way.

AllisChalmers37:  Can we make this a plural request, if so, I would like to see an updated B because of their success and simplicity.

A new B with FWA with a whole line of attatchments like belly mower, loader, maybe even a backhoe similar to what Kubota makes.

I'd vote for a design based on the looks of the D series, something around the D15 - D17 size.

Edited by Dave in il - 02 Jan 2011 at 9:47am

i agree with the wd 45. they should realy do that.

I'd love to see a 210 or 220 with an 8000 series cab 3 remotes and 1000 540 pto.

I vote for a remake of the D17 and B

Remember the full Ag-history has changed from small self sufficient Family farms of 80 to 160 Acres to the large Corporate farm base or many sections under management by few people. The move from 10 to 40 head milk producers to 100 or 1000 head mega-producers.

Yeah, kinda what Coke said. I would say they could have some success with compact tractors. Maybe call them a B series. B would most-likely look similar to the "Boomer" 8N from NH if it were to come out today. Not even sure if it would sell. Like Coke said, Skid-steer/ compact track machines have almost taken the place of mid-size track loaders, as well as compact/midsize tractors. There are enough attachments for those things that they will perform any job you could do with a tractor, small track loader, and a backhoe, but you only need to buy one machine. Attachments are easy to hook up/unhook(no stupid 3 point hitch anymore,just reach out the door, pull up the two levers, disconnect hoses, tilt out of one attachment, and you're ready to tilt into another. Takes less than 5 minutes, and a lot of these things have heated/air conditioned cabs now. No more eating dust/getting poked in the eye by limbs.

The New Holland 8N is aimed at the suburban and rural Kubota buyer that started out buying 8N's and the like. I don't think AGCO is really interested in developing market loyalty this way because there are already cheap Indian knockoffs of little Massies that used to be sold here in the 80's. I don't think anyone is busting the doors in to buy one.

When you look at how many small tractors are selling world wide, there has got to be a market for a B - CA size tractor, actually probably more like a D12.  It would have to have the bells and whistles like everyone else has (hydro trans, live pto & hydraulics, power steering, etc. etc. and of course diesel.  However several years ago a friend who wheeled and dealed with small tractors suggested that if someone came out with a small tractor with a FI, turbo'ed gasoline engine, they would sell well as a lot of people just don't want to deal with hard starting diesel engines in the winter and they don't like to have to get a can of diesel and figure out how (or call the dealer for help) when they run the machine out of fuel.  One thing I'm pretty certain is that there would be very little demand for a B style tractor except for collectors, (who are usually too cheap to buy a new tractor), Few people want to climb onto a B any more then they would a Farmall A or Cub.  I do think Dream is onto something with the ZTR G idea, something with a 25 hp gas engine with a diesel option, taller tires then garden tractors for clearance and live power for a mid mount mower.  Make it easy to switch to a cultivator, planter unit, blade, etc.  Also have a 3 point on the back for a rototiller or snow blower.  Lots of good ideas on this forum, all it takes is money to make it happen!


Edited by JohnCO - 06 Jan 2011 at 12:08am

The orange ones.

I grew up leaning on a M and Super MTA on my uncle's farm. My Dad had and 8N when he retired. Now I bought my uncle's neighbor's D-14. I would have to vote Orange in the D series.