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Travis2766 
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Posted: 5 hours 31 minutes ago at 11:55am |
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Just looking for some advice here. I found a d14 with an Allis 400 series loader for sale locally that interests me. I’m thinking it could be my full time loader tractor and I can finally remove the crappy New Idea loader from my d17. What’s everyone’s take on a d14 with a fully hydraulic loader? It has the front mounted pump which is a plus. No factory power steering but it has a Char-Lynn torque generator installed for the power steering, I have no experience with this setup. I mostly use my loader with pallet forks for loading and unloading things and the bucket for plowing snow.
Edited by Travis2766 - 5 hours 29 minutes ago at 11:57am
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DSeries4
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Posted: 2 hours 48 minutes ago at 2:38pm |
The 400 loader is one of AC's best loaders. However, without power steering, your arms will get tired pretty quick. If I did buy that 14, the first thing I would do is pull the front axle and rebuild the pivot assembly. Even without a loader, I have seen them get pretty worn after 60+ years. A heavy 400 loader definitely would not help either.
Checking the wheel bearings, tie rods and spindle bushings would also be highly recommended.
What are you planning to lift with it? The loader will probably handle it, but I would be more concerned about the tractor.
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Travis2766
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Posted: 2 hours 22 minutes ago at 3:04pm |
 DSeries4 wrote:
The 400 loader is one of AC's best loaders. However, without power steering, your arms will get tired pretty quick. If I did buy that 14, the first thing I would do is pull the front axle and rebuild the pivot assembly. Even without a loader, I have seen them get pretty worn after 60+ years. A heavy 400 loader definitely would not help either.
Checking the wheel bearings, tie rods and spindle bushings would also be highly recommended.
What are you planning to lift with it? The loader will probably handle it, but I would be more concerned about the tractor.
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Lift the occasional piece of equipment that I buy or sell. Seems that I’m always moving around hay racks to a different running gear or a gravity box onto a different gear. Those are probably the heavier things, I don’t do round bales so nothing like that. I’m guessing it’s going to get light in the rear end fairly quickly.
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Darb210
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Posted: 2 hours 9 minutes ago at 3:17pm |
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I'd put that loader on the D17 if it was me
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Eric B
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Posted: 2 hours 5 minutes ago at 3:21pm |
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That 400 loader is excellent, my dad has one that he's used for over 25 years. As DSeries 4 has said, you really do need good working power steering. The Char-Lynn torque generator power steering set up is unfamiliar to me? If that's good and works well, you should be OK. I have one D14 with the Wagner loader (and factory power steering) but the Allis 400 is far superior.
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Travis2766
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Posted: 1 hour 39 minutes ago at 3:47pm |
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I really don’t want the loader on my D17, I use it for planting and tillage and have to take the loader off for all of that (I don’t like it bouncing around on the front and it steers like s$&t with the loader on). I would really like to just leave it on a tractor and was hoping this D14 would fit the bill.
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Posted: 1 hour 12 minutes ago at 4:14pm |
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The Model 414 and 415 are great loaders. The front mounted hyd. pump gives you live hydraulic for the loader and operates completely independent of the Tractors hydraulic.
The big concern with the D-14 would be 2nd and 3rd gear jumping.
Being a loader Tractor would mean a lot of gear changing.
On my 415 I installed a full flow PH8 style Oil Filter on the return line.
Kit is available from NAPA.
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