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nella(Pa) 
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Posted: 20 hours 39 minutes ago at 12:49pm |
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Has anyone herd of this company "Three Points Land", from Oklahoma City OK. they are looking for land to put solar panels on and in the letter it sounds pretty good finically compared to corn and soybeans. But it usually don't end up that way!
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 20 hours 22 minutes ago at 1:06pm |
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along with READING the fine print... get 15 YEARS worth of rent/and lease UP FRONT !
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Posted: 19 hours 13 minutes ago at 2:15pm |
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These companies float in the wind like Dust Devils, Caution at ALL Times.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 15 hours 14 minutes ago at 6:14pm |
yea, with the track record most of these outifts have.. I would GET THE MONEY up front.. Then a percentage of sales going forward, or a yearly RENT..... Plan on them to CUT AND RUN at any time... so GET THE MONEY UP FRONT..
also WHO CLEANS UP after they are "DONE "?
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Posted: 14 hours 10 minutes ago at 7:18pm |
You should see the massive land destruction that has been done for a solar panel farm less than 3 miles from my place. I had understood that solar panels could conform to the natural lay of the land, not at this project there are 3 huge mosquito breeding ponds that have been dug with the equal mountain of rocks that came from the holes. The you go down to the big city of Frederick and look at all the warehouses with bare flat roofs that would be the perfect place for solar panels. Then there is also the big Data center being built without a single solar panel in any proposal. Once all the farmland that gets destroyed to put in solar panels starts getting taxed as industrial after it get taken out of agricultural production, then how does it pay for you sell outs? Solar has it's place, it's just not on productive farmland, unless it is done in such a way to remain as grazing land.
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Posted: 11 hours 13 minutes ago at 10:15pm |
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Ya, all they do is contaminate the area! They serve no useful purpose other than get big govt. payments to pad their false companys pockets!
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Mikez
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Posted: 10 hours 3 minutes ago at 11:25pm |
Before the solar was even thought of being in an open field there was concern of the amount of land lost to development. Can’t imagine how much land is being lost now. I see in the future the no trespassing signs on fence will have above them contaminated site keep out. Because they will stop producing and who will pay to clean them up. Or where will you take them. To the landfills that are already full. They claim the solar is to help the environment. I see it just making another mess.
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Posted: 9 hours 45 minutes ago at 11:43pm |
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There is not really "contamination", the main problem are all the cement piers for ground anchors so the panels don't fly away.
When they give up the project they pull the panels to resell and the copper wire and maybe the iron bracket bracing for scrap, but leave you with a grid of cement tree stumps four foot in the ground.
So make sure they do a clean up in the contract.
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Posted: 6 hours 38 minutes ago at 2:50am |
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If any of the cells become damaged, hail is a big problem these leach the Cadmium, Arsenic, Lead and other nasty elements used to produce the Under Glass components. Leads to issues that if notice are usually CONEX boxes on the sites, away from the viewed edge, these to store broken panels as cannot be removed from the sites except by a Hazmat hauler to a recycler that as yet does NOT exist.
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Posted: 3 hours 50 minutes ago at 5:38am |
Always thought ( wrongly I suppose..) that the roofs of Walmarts and SAMS and Costcos and .... would be IDEAL solar sites. HUGE useless areas and SHORT cable runs to the grid. Agree that ONE broken solar panel in 100 acres will contaminate what used to be viable farmland......
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Posted: 2 hours 42 minutes ago at 6:46am |
There have been several landowners in our area that have committed land for solar farms.
I was talking to our local assessor a while back and he brought up an interesting point, that I hadn't thought of. He said, when you put thousands (maybe even millions) of dollars of income producing solar panels (permanently "built") on land, the parcel is now worth much more and should be assessed as such. Suddenly, land that was assessed as farmland, now is worth much more. He expects some of these landowners are in for a huge surprise when they get tax bills for hundreds of times what their taxes were. he thinks that is one of the reasons solar companies are leasing land instead of purchasing.
I wondered why these companies are not buying property instead of leasing at exorbitant rates. Maybe this is one of the reasons.
Just something else to think of, when considering a lease.
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nella(Pa)
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Posted: 1 hour 57 minutes ago at 7:31am |
 WF owner wrote:
There have been several landowners in our area that have committed land for solar farms.
I was talking to our local assessor a while back and he brought up an interesting point, that I hadn't thought of. He said, when you put thousands (maybe even millions) of dollars of income producing solar panels (permanently "built") on land, the parcel is now worth much more and should be assessed as such. Suddenly, land that was assessed as farmland, now is worth much more. He expects some of these landowners are in for a huge surprise when they get tax bills for hundreds of times what their taxes were. he thinks that is one of the reasons solar companies are leasing land instead of purchasing.
I wondered why these companies are not buying property instead of leasing at exorbitant rates. Maybe this is one of the reasons.
Just something else to think of, when considering a lease. |
The same goes for cell towers in my area!
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Posted: 1 hour 51 minutes ago at 7:37am |
That’s probably why there are trying to label it farm by running sheep under them. To still fall under the ag assessment tax thingy.
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