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   We now have 2 diverging diamond interchanges in Wisconsin. If you think roundabouts are bad, I think these things are worse. All traffic has to cross each other's path twice, unless you make a left-hand turn onto the crossroad. If you are making a left-hand turn, you now have to be in the left lane which is 3 lanes over in the case of the interchange in Janesville. but you have 2 stop and go lights to encounter before you get to that point. Great when you are a loaded semi having to start and stop trying to make the lights and 4 wheelers racing around you because you are slowing them down. Otherwise, if you continue down the road 1 more set of lights, great if you time them right sucks if traffic slows you down. I don't understand what was wrong with full clover leaf ramps unto these highways. Traffic never had to cross each other. I guess the only big deal is getting people to slow down for the ramps and not running off them in the snow. Stupid people and stupid engineers ruin it for everyone.

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DanWi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1784	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanWi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Engineering stupidity Posted: 10 hours 10 minutes ago at 9:37pm
	We now have 2 diverging diamond interchanges in Wisconsin. If you think roundabouts are bad, I think these things are worse. All traffic has to cross each other's path twice, unless you make a left-hand turn onto the crossroad. If you are making a left-hand turn, you now have to be in the left lane which is 3 lanes over in the case of the interchange in Janesville. but you have 2 stop and go lights to encounter before you get to that point. Great when you are a loaded semi having to start and stop trying to make the lights and 4 wheelers racing around you because you are slowing them down. Otherwise, if you continue down the road 1 more set of lights, great if you time them right sucks if traffic slows you down. I don't understand what was wrong with full clover leaf ramps unto these highways. Traffic never had to cross each other. I guess the only big deal is getting people to slow down for the ramps and not running off them in the snow. Stupid people and stupid engineers ruin it for everyone.

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jvin248 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 17 Jan 2022 Location: Detroit Points: 321	Post Options Post Reply Quote jvin248 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8 hours 27 minutes ago at 11:20pm
	. Too many city departments playing Sim City. .

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	I was down in Houston TX and first hated their no cloverleafs in freeway , but a underpass for freeway off ramp and a one way road on each side of freeway . Straight exit to a two way road with stop light , straight entrance to freeway from one way road . Makes since once you get use to it . WI with 2 roundabouts on bridge overpass (one each end ) then another roundabout for frontage road spaced a little further off - YOUR Dizzy trying to figure out how to get there from here
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DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31103	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 2 hours 51 minutes ago at 4:56am
	Missery started with Odd interchanges a couple decades back, Diverging Diamond, Round About, no overpass off ramps/on ramps, and then are the classic Jersey Barriers on steroids on too narrow right of ways abutted to houses on Outside with massive walls to cut the noise and those four foot tall, poured in place barriers with no shoulder to the inside barely able to catch drainage if drains were not choked out as cannot clean them adequately. Interstate highway system is absolutely schitt anymore, really do not enjoy them as rough, bad planning, poorer development and always the cons by politicians thinking will build economies in trouble by advancing roads projects leasing to more move outs than move ins. St Louis has four bridges of worthless value from downtown into Illinois, all within Five mile distance.

plummerscarin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3478	Post Options Post Reply Quote plummerscarin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 41 minutes ago at 7:06am
	A diamond has recently been completed near me on I380. Ive used it, not particularly impressed but whatever. These things have come about because today's traffic just can't be bothered with having to slow down for existing structures. Fewer and fewer actually stop at stop signs anymore. Traffic engineers have acquiesced to this and stepped up to provide something "better". They need something to do. Granted, I do like the roundy round built near me but curse those that don't understand their function. Do I sound like Freedguy? Edited by plummerscarin - 39 minutes ago at 7:08am

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	Dallas, TX takes a totally different approach. Take a look at the intersection of E-W I30 and N-S I35E. I think I counted '7' different levels of roadway. No matter which direction you want to go, you travel a minimum 60 mph. Certainly a lot of acres of asphalt ! G https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dallas,+TX/@32.7698462,-96.8157655,2510m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x864c19f77b45974b:0xb9ec9ba4f647678f!8m2!3d32.7766642!4d-96.7969879!16zL20vMGYycnE!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOS4yIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22475	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 minutes ago at 7:37am
	two examples of local idiots, er,, 'engineers'...... 1) Hwy #6 to Hwy #403 merges into the FAST lane of 3 on the 403 !!!. FYI this is a very,very busy chunk of 6 lane highway here in Hamilton,10s of 1,000s of cars and ugh trucks...every day. yes , 'they' decided merging at a crawl into the FAST (60MPH+) lane was a good idea... 2) Peter's Corners roundabout. To solve the traffic 'problem' at Hwys 5 and 8, 'they' spent 8 million plus for a two lane roundabout and ADDED 2 sets of traffic lights, before and after the roundabout. Naturally 'they' didn't know that 53' trailers USE these highways so it took all of 3 weeks before carnage occoured(hmm..car and 53'er can't be side by side, go figure..... Sadly the less than a million buck true solution would have been to buy a 100' strip of the farmer's section and put in a straight road...NO roundabout needed...... 3) latest project ,10+ years in the making is to 'rework' Clappison's Corners ( Hwys 5 and 6 ). It involves a bridge over hwy 6 to allow hwy5 to flow east west, BLASTING the escarpment to LOWER hwy 6 to get UNDER the new bridge and several access roads to gas station and local shops.Currently IF there's no accidents, rush hour ends around 9:30( 'rush' being stop and go to Hwy 403's FAST lane..) HUGE quarries up the road,so LOTS of unskilled dump truck drivers on #5 a 2 lane hwy, makes for interesting commutes. How anyone does it and not get killed is a miracle, though one dump trucker 'sneezed' went off road, totalled a main feed hydro pole, 1,000s without power for 10-12 hours. last one.... cloverleaf at Mohawk road to hwy 403 has only 3 leaves. Yup, eastbound Mohawk to south hwy 403 leaf is MISSING......no wonder local village's main drag is busy from 6AM until midnight, every day...... idiots......
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