7010 Powershift Question

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   Hi guys, I bought a 7010 powershift yesterday, and this is my first powershift tractor. I test drove it and it's getting delivered to me next week. The seller stated to shift to High or Low range without gear grinding, he clutches and shifts to reverse, then it goes into either range very smoothly. I tried as he said, and it worked. In the test drive, I noticed the detents were very weak between gears, and it felt like I might be getting only 5 gears instead of 6.I searched the forum for powershift threads and I've got an idea on what to check for the weak detents...the ball, spring, and comb behind the shifter valve on the side of the transmission, so I will check that out when I have the tractor in the shop. What I'm not so sure about is the range shift issue...from what I've read, the transmission "brake" is just oil pressure being applied to a forward and reverse clutch simultaneously to stop shaft rotation. I don't remember how much free travel the inching pedal had, but if I'm thinking right, there isn't supposed to be any free travel at all, correct?

What would shifting into reverse to stop range shift gear clashing signify? Would that indicate the reverse clutch pack isn't getting oil pressure when the inching pedal is depressed, but it is getting it when shifted to reverse, thus stopping shaft rotation?
Thanks for any advice!

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CrestonM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8391	Post Options Post Reply Quote CrestonM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 7010 Powershift Question Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 11:39pm
	Hi guys, I bought a 7010 powershift yesterday, and this is my first powershift tractor. I test drove it and it's getting delivered to me next week. The seller stated to shift to High or Low range without gear grinding, he clutches and shifts to reverse, then it goes into either range very smoothly. I tried as he said, and it worked. In the test drive, I noticed the detents were very weak between gears, and it felt like I might be getting only 5 gears instead of 6. I searched the forum for powershift threads and I've got an idea on what to check for the weak detents...the ball, spring, and comb behind the shifter valve on the side of the transmission, so I will check that out when I have the tractor in the shop. What I'm not so sure about is the range shift issue...from what I've read, the transmission "brake" is just oil pressure being applied to a forward and reverse clutch simultaneously to stop shaft rotation. I don't remember how much free travel the inching pedal had, but if I'm thinking right, there isn't supposed to be any free travel at all, correct? What would shifting into reverse to stop range shift gear clashing signify? Would that indicate the reverse clutch pack isn't getting oil pressure when the inching pedal is depressed, but it is getting it when shifted to reverse, thus stopping shaft rotation? Thanks for any advice!

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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20520	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 6:31am
	He has given you very wise and experienced operational advice. The Power Shift transmission has the same quirk as most all wet oil bathed clutches do......creeping or viscous drag of the lube oil, especially when the oil is cold. The transmission brake (if it is working and I assume it does ??? maybe not??) stops things from rotating, but sometimes there is still drive pressure against the shift coupling, making it difficult to get it out of (especially) LOW range. A quick shift to reverse and slight teasing of the inching pedal will then allow you to pop it right out of gear to neutral to go to HIGH range or PARK. When the oil is warmed up this is not an issue. With 6 wet clutches, there is a lot of drag with cold oil. ***Rereading this, I don't think the trans brake is working at all, which would be a broken snap ring on the inching spool. Trans brake should stop the tractor pretty hard when the inching pedal is put clear down. The advice is still very accurate for cold oil operation and shifting the range lever. Edited by DrAllis - 02 Nov 2024 at 6:35am

CrestonM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8391	Post Options Post Reply Quote CrestonM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 10:30am
	Yes, I should've worded it better...without that trick of shifting into reverse, the range shifter will not go into gear due to the gear clash. I read on another thread either here or on YT that this is a common issue and the fix for that is a spot weld where the snap ring goes? I'm unable to find that thread at the moment, could you refresh me on what needs welded and where?

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20520	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 4:05pm
	Power Shift trans valve has to be removed and torn down, at least partially. The missing snap ring in question commonly breaks. I just put a spot of weld in the snap ring groove and call it good. AGCO's update is a new spool with a threaded stud/nut affair on the end, if it is even still available.

CrestonM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8391	Post Options Post Reply Quote CrestonM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2024 at 8:32am
	Thanks Doc, once I get the tractor I'll begin looking into this, and I'll probably be back with questions.

Ed (Ont) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1290	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ed (Ont) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2024 at 4:20pm
	Hey Creston. This is off topic but how are you doing on the FE project? My friend has a 68 Mustang and he is building a ford 390 for it. Wants to get about 500 hp.