8050 Fuel line diameter

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   Hello Orange Family,I was discing with the 8050 tonight, when a huge cloud of white smoke came billowing out from under the hood.  Managed to find a hole in the number 5 injector line kist below the ehxaust manifold.  Hot manifold, and good flowing fuel, = lots of white smoke.  

Now I need to repair.  It was getting dark, so I will work on it in the light tomorrow.  I am thinking of bending my own fuel line to replace this one.  It has been a while since I had one of these apart.  I forget if the flare at the end is single, or double.  I know I have some new rubber washers that seal the line under the threaded cap.  

In addition to the type of flare, does anyone know the diameter of the line?  Can I Get fuel or transmission line from the store to work?  
In case it matters, it is the set up where the lines all go straight up from the pump, then cross over and above the exhaust manifold, not the other one.  

Thank you,
John


Edited by Johnwilson_osf - 19 Sep 2024 at 6:39pm

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Johnwilson_osf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: Mount Bethel PA Points: 931	Post Options Post Reply Quote Johnwilson_osf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 8050 Fuel line diameter Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 6:33pm
	Hello Orange Family, I was discing with the 8050 tonight, when a huge cloud of white smoke came billowing out from under the hood. Managed to find a hole in the number 5 injector line kist below the ehxaust manifold. Hot manifold, and good flowing fuel, = lots of white smoke. Now I need to repair. It was getting dark, so I will work on it in the light tomorrow. I am thinking of bending my own fuel line to replace this one. It has been a while since I had one of these apart. I forget if the flare at the end is single, or double. I know I have some new rubber washers that seal the line under the threaded cap. In addition to the type of flare, does anyone know the diameter of the line? Can I Get fuel or transmission line from the store to work? In case it matters, it is the set up where the lines all go straight up from the pump, then cross over and above the exhaust manifold, not the other one. Thank you, John Edited by Johnwilson_osf - 19 Sep 2024 at 6:39pm
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SteveM C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8244	Post Options Post Reply Quote SteveM C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 8:50pm
	Isn't it just a special ferrule under the nut?

darrel in ND Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8634	Post Options Post Reply Quote darrel in ND Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 5:36am
	I could be wrong, but I don't believe that injector line tubing is just "run of the mill" tubing that you get off the shelf and put flared ends on. Think it's much thicker then that. Darrel

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20534	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 6:37am
	Injector lines are very special, thick walled tubing. The lines are a specific length and must be exactly the same length as the other five lines. They must be bent smoothly with no kinks. They must be secured so they can't vibrate or move around or rub anything else. I believe the ferrules on each end are welded on, not crimped. Buy a new line from AGCO if available. If not, buy a whole set of lines from a used engine.

ryan(IN) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Bluffton,IN Points: 764	Post Options Post Reply Quote ryan(IN) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 6:55am
	There are two different style lines they used as well. The later style only came as a whole assembly which is discontinued. The early style. Shows they have 5 of the #5 line in Batavia.
	ryan 1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62

injpumpEd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4917	Post Options Post Reply Quote injpumpEd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 7:42am
	the ends on the Ermeto like AC used are just crimped on ferrules, though special for the purpose. AGCO # is 74501149 for ferrule, and 74504409 is the nut. Making an injection line is not something just anyone can, or should do. I get lines from Scheid in Effingham, or Fair Valley Performance in Sauk City Wi. Usually you have to send in the old one to copy. That material is very tough to bend, and bend correctly. I had Scheid make me #3 lines for the early style on an 8030-8070, and have 1 left. I'm no help on #5 lol!
	210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!