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Lars(wi) 
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 Topic: Early 1950’s linoleum………
Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 6:14pm |
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Being removed from hallway, and probably kitchen.
Was underneath 1980’s wood grain laminate made of some type of rubberized plastic petroleum product.
The linoleum isn’t coming up easy. The black adhesive mostly remains on the hardwood floor. What’s the best course of action to remove this 70 year old adhesive?
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 6:15pm |
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Be cautious with those, the Tiles in the 30s 40s and 50s had Asbestos in them.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 6:19pm |
If they are 9 x 9 size, there is 100% chance of them being asbestos... If other size, and built before 1960, still some chance... As long as your scraping and its comeing up in CHUNKS, thats OK... DO NOT GRIND.. NO DUST...
BEST way to do it is to screw down 1/2 inch plywood OVER the stuff and START OVER.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 6:37pm |
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Don't know about linoleum, especially of that vintage, but a heat gun works wonders on peel and stick tile. Might be worth a try
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 6:40pm |
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This is actually rolled linoleum. Not brittle like the tiles. We want to try and go back to the hardwood floor.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 7:20pm |
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i think the HEAT is a good idea... Most "GLUE" turn gummy when heated and can be scraped with a wood chisle or putty knife.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 8:50pm |
Lookup "Asbestos Abatement Procedure" If the tile is that old it's very likely it contains asbestos. My house built in 1955 has 1 room with the original tile on floor, the others are hardwood floors. At purchase I got a Notarized letter stating this 1 room has asbestos in floor. |
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Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 8:54pm |
In many cases if the tile were not asbestos , the glue contained it . The remediation is to dampen it when scraping , There is a orange based glue removal product I got from a Janitor Supply company to remove glue from concrete where carpet had been glued down (glue was known as Green Death) as it seemed to even defeat a power razor knife machine . Product was expensive but result was clean floor once glue was scraped off , it turned into stringy paste and easily removed - then water washed floor . I had tried several solvents until I talked to my supplier on products to try , the stuff worked
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Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 6:34am |
One all the linoleum is removed ,so just the black adhesive remians,get a pro floor sanding guy in and ask him CAN the floor be saved ? I was lucky, after we removed the carpet, he said you've got ONE ,LIGHT sanding left. whew....he did a great job..38 years ago.....most still looks real nice,cept for very high traffic areas.
If you go DIY, get the big square machine from Home Depot Rentals NOT a drum sander !!!
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Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 11:51am |
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Talked with one guy at our local hardware store, and described what I had, he said I most likely have ‘sheet vinyl’.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 11:48pm |
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You can get a power scraper or razor scraper from Rental places , take about a 8" cut blade and do a good job .
The sheet goods are either vinyl or asphalt base material - but asbestos was used in the adhesive for many years
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Posted: 21 Sep 2024 at 7:27am |
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A couple years ago, I pulled the linoleum floor up in the kitchen. 100 year old farm house, but the kitchen was added in the 50's I think. It had FIVE layers, all on top of the other! No glue, but about 5000 little brads and staples to hand pull. First course had felt paper below it, thankfully. I have the original wood floor now, but still have not refinished it.
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