This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


190XT front tires

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Wbenchfarms View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Dec 2015
Location: Lisbon, OH
Points: 45
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wbenchfarms Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 190XT front tires
    Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 8:21am
Still slowly fixing up my new XT. I bad need of a set of front tires. Currently has 6.50-16 on it. I know it calls for 7.50-16. I'm thinking I'll be putting a loader on it, so thinking about putting a set of 4 rib 10.00-16 on it. 99% sure I'll have to change rims. Anyone else gone this big? Will the 7.50-16 be fine?
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
DSeries4 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Points: 7302
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 8:38am
Absolutely you will need new rims if you go to 10 x 16.  Most 190s came with 7.5 x 16 - still too small in my opinion.   Mine came with 7.5 x 16 when I bought it, but I went to 10 x 16 when I restored it.  I got a set of front rims from a 200 tractor and they fit good.  With 18.4 x 34 on the rear, it does lift up the front quite a bit.  9.5 x 15 from a 185 might keep it a bit more level.


'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
Back to Top
Wbenchfarms View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Dec 2015
Location: Lisbon, OH
Points: 45
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wbenchfarms Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 9:06am
Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:


Absolutely you will need new rims if you go to 10 x 16.  Most 190s came
with 7.5 x 16 - still too small in my opinion.   Mine came with 7.5 x
16 when I bought it, but I went to 10 x 16 when I restored it.  I got a
set of front rims from a 200 tractor and they fit good.  With 18.4 x 34
on the rear, it does lift up the front quite a bit.  9.5 x 15 from a 185
might keep it a bit more level.




I do like to looks of the bigger tires. Have been looking around at rim options. Shoup has a couple different ones, just not sure the difference in them. All have the same 1.125 offset. Hate to get a set and find that the tires will rub. May have to do some searching in the wrecking yard.
Back to Top
HudCo View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jan 2013
Location: Plymouth Utah
Points: 3482
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HudCo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 9:36am
11.50 x 15 four rib,would be you ticket.      keeping  the tractor sitting leval looks the best to me i borrowed some tires from my tire shop to get a look at them on my d17 with 16,9 x28  on the back    9.5 x15 on eight inch wheels  are just right for me and the 11.5 x15 on 10 inch rims was way to tall ,     i have a ford 8600 in the yard right with 10 x 16 tri ribs they are 33 tall its rears are 18.4 x38 and the grill is a little higher than the back of the hood 
Back to Top
PaulB View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Rocky Ridge Md
Points: 4652
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaulB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 9:45am
Just a thought: If you're thinking of putting a loader on, first find a rims that have the correct offset, next pick one with the highest weight rating, then choose your tire size. why put big tires on a rim with a low weight rating? 
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
Back to Top
Wbenchfarms View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Dec 2015
Location: Lisbon, OH
Points: 45
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wbenchfarms Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 9:55am
Got to looking around at my other tractors and I have one with 10.00-16 fronts and 16.9-38 rears. The 18.4-34 on the XT are actually a little bit taller than the 16.9's. These are 6 bolt fronts so I may swap them around just to have an idea what they look like. I hate to spend a bunch of $ and not like the results.
Back to Top
Darb210 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Jan 2011
Location: Ohio
Points: 818
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Darb210 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 12:32pm
put the 10.00x16 on it and don't look back, you'll love it!   A good local tire shop can tell you the correct rim width for you.
Back to Top
Wbenchfarms View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Dec 2015
Location: Lisbon, OH
Points: 45
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wbenchfarms Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 2:12pm
Decided to pull a front off the other tractor and see how they look. I'm thinking I like the 10.00-16. Now just need to find a set of wheels that won't break the bank. Used would be fine for this old ride.
Back to Top
IBWD MIke View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Apr 2012
Location: Newton Ia.
Points: 3639
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IBWD MIke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 7:57am
My 756 has 10.00x16's on what I assume are the original rims. Would have come with 6.50X16's new. They are a little pinched but don't look goofy. Now, one went flat not long after getting here, I dismounted it and got a new tube but COULD NOT get that thing back on the rim! Had to take ot to the local tire shop. Personally, I wouldn't have set it up like that but it works and not going to change it.
Back to Top
Calvin Schmidt View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario Can.
Points: 4520
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Calvin Schmidt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 1:20pm
Wbenchfarms, I've been looking for a pair of those 16" rims that look like they are on backwards. Would be interested if you are not going to use them. 
Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
Back to Top
Wbenchfarms View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Dec 2015
Location: Lisbon, OH
Points: 45
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wbenchfarms Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by Calvin Schmidt Calvin Schmidt wrote:

Wbenchfarms, I've been looking for a pair of those 16" rims that look like they are on backwards. Would be interested if you are not going to use them. 


Are you wanting the 6" wide or 10" wide? May part with the narrow ones if I make the change. The wide ones go on my 9520.
Back to Top
Calvin Schmidt View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario Can.
Points: 4520
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Calvin Schmidt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 7:19pm
Only interested in the wide rims to mount 11.00 x 16 four rib tires 
Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
Back to Top
KJCHRIS View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 2015
Location: WC Iowa
Points: 872
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KJCHRIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 1:49am
I've never had 18.4x34" tires on a tractor. So no personal experience. 
My preference would be the 10:00x16 especially with a loader or doing tillage in soft dirt. 
 I've had both 9.5Lx15" and 10:00x16" tires on several tractors with 16.9 & 18.4x38" rears. 
18.4x38 Goodyears and 9.5Lx15 4 rib, hood will look level on AC 200 & AC7000. 
18.4x38 Firestone and 10:00x16 3 or 4 rib, hood will look level on AC200. is My loader tractor w/ Westendorf WL40 & Quik Tach 84" bucket. 


AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B,
Back to Top
Wbenchfarms View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Dec 2015
Location: Lisbon, OH
Points: 45
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wbenchfarms Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2024 at 7:13pm
Bought a pair of 10.00-16 wheels and 4 rib tires off of a 1070 Case at an auction this weekend. $260 for the pair. Cheap enough for me I guess. Tires are not new, but they will do. Pretty happy with the way it looks. Bought a loader out of Iowa for $800 delivered. Just have to get the cylinders packed and it's ready to pin on. Few mechanical issues that I need to look in to down the road, but I really like this old tractor.


Edited by Wbenchfarms - 15 Sep 2024 at 7:15pm
Back to Top
IBWD MIke View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Apr 2012
Location: Newton Ia.
Points: 3639
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IBWD MIke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 6:41am
You'll like the 10.00x16's for loader work.
Back to Top
darrel in ND View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Hebron, ND
Points: 8621
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darrel in ND Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 10:13am
Get some 18.4 38' on the rear now, and it'll really sit like a champ !
Darrel
Back to Top
200Tom1 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 03 Jun 2019
Location: Iowa
Points: 1200
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 200Tom1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2024 at 7:47pm
Make sure you get tractor rims. They have a far heavier center in them than wagon rims, if this is something you are gonna keep for years, I'd go to my local farm tire shop and have them order the correct pair of new ones. That way you are sure you are getting the correct rims.
Back to Top
Gary Burnett View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Virginia
Points: 2928
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Burnett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 5:07am
Before putting  the loader on the 190 might want to take it out and try to constantly shift from forward to reverse for awhile.For me a 190 would be about the last tractor I'd want a loader on.Just pulled the loader off my 185 not a loader friendly shifting set up either as far as I'm concerned.
Back to Top
8070nc View Drop Down
Silver Level Access
Silver Level Access


Joined: 21 Mar 2019
Location: North Carolina
Points: 491
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 8070nc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 6:27am
We had a 500 loader on a 190 for years. I loved it. I could work the hydraulics with my right hand and the shifter with my left
1984 80780
1957 D14
DES 300 with 25000 engine
616 tractor
Back to Top
Gary Burnett View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Virginia
Points: 2928
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Burnett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 7:06am
Originally posted by 8070nc 8070nc wrote:

We had a 500 loader on a 190 for years. I loved it. I could work the hydraulics with my right hand and the shifter with my left


Have you ever had a real utility tractor with a loader? My 2 Oliver 1365 tractors and David Brown 990 with loaders would run circles around the 185 and the 190 is even worse to shift,plus the front ends are more loader friendly.But any loader beats no loader for sure.
Back to Top
Gary Burnett View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Virginia
Points: 2928
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Burnett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 7:14am
One the subject of rims when I had the loader on the 185 the original  rims with 7.50 X 16 tires cracked around the lug holes.Replaced those rims with rims that took a 9.5L X 15 tires off a New Holland 851 round baler.Those have held up very well no problems.The NH rims were thicker and much heavier than the AC tractor rims.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.047 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum