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Les Kerf
Orange Level Joined: 08 May 2020 Location: Idaho Points: 777 |
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Posted: 31 Jul 2023 at 9:25am |
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My Son-in-law purchased a ripper mount for his HD5G, we will need to fabricate a tool bar for it but he knew this when he bought it.
What we are wondering though is it looks like there possibly should be something that attaches to the lower end of the ripper mount and then attaches to the drawbar pull-point underneath the tractor. Is this correct? Does anyone have any pictures or drawings of this? Thanks for the help |
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doctorcorey
Orange Level Joined: 17 Jul 2011 Location: S. KC Missouri Points: 589 |
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Not sure on the 5, but the 7G had no link to the draw bar mount area. I remember this because it's a lot easier getting under the machine without that draw bar hanging there. It does however provide some skid plate effect back there.
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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yes there are 2 long pieces that pin into the drawbar hole and got to each side with a flat end that bolts into the bottom 4 bolts behind the bottom pin. i will try to get a picture when i get home.
Edited by CAL(KS) - 31 Jul 2023 at 3:47pm |
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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crap, i got home last night and realized i had a meeting to go to and forgot to snap some pics. will do my best to get tonight
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Les Kerf
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Thank you Cal, that is exactly what I needed to know. Now to see if we can find some used parts, if not we can fabricate something |
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CAL(KS)
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I snapped a few pics but my storage here is full. Send email to bigcal36@hotmail.com
I will reply with photos in the morning. Difficult to do from my phone right now |
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Les Kerf
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Thanks Cal, I sent an email from wildwoodjcs
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Hope this helps |
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CAL(KS)
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thats interesting. someone has mounted the ripper bar to the original drawbar setup and cut the cylinder mount out of the main plate and bolted on and welded support straps. It doesnt look like the drawbar is still intact as the hitch is welded to swing plate and there would be no provision to mount the pull links on either side to the original swinging drawbar hanger. So all the pulling force and downforce from cylinder is concentrated on the swinging drawbar hanger bolts!! looks like it would work but definitely not as stout as the oem setup.
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Les Kerf
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That is all very helpful, thanks Methinks this will be a long-term fabricating project unless we can find some used components.
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CAL(KS)
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General Gear would surely have what your missing
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Coke-in-MN
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By the look of it I would fabricate a plate for drawbar to set onto and support it by using the pin holes on mount to hold drawbar when ripper is removed .
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Les Kerf
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General Gear is where we got this incomplete ripper mount |
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CAL(KS)
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Edited by CAL(KS) - 11 Aug 2023 at 10:04am |
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Les Kerf
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Sorry about that Cal, I did not specify in the original post where we got the mount. I have never seen the OEM style, thanks for the tip about using a pin-on style. Building a toolbar is just time, materials, and burning rod Do you think 1/2" thick wall is adequate? |
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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i believe oem is 1/2 fabbed box. I can get some closeup shots of my toolbar to help.
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Les Kerf
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That would be much appreciated, thanks! |
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doctorcorey
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Zimmerman Tractor in Missouri has a complete single-cyl ripper setup for $1000. If I recall, it has one large shank. Didn't ask if it comes with the diverter valve.
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Les Kerf
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We have acquired a tool bar for the HD5G but are still in need of the two bars that connect the ripper mount to the pull point underneath the tractor. I have attempted to contact Zimmerman but no reply yet. If anyone has one for sale let me know.
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Coke-in-MN
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Was looking and seen a post on unit mounted on HD6 (same rear housing as HD5) where cylinder was hitting fuel tank when raised . Person was wondering on fix for that problem . So evidently either cylinder changed or trunnion mount changed .
Using a ripper on a HD5G or HD6G it seems would not be heavy enough counter weight for loader use . |
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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I mounted a ripper on my 6g and it definitely helped over just a drawbar setup. im guessing 8-900lbs bolted on back there. I have new bucket teeth and can really load up too
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Coke-in-MN
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Back of my HD5G I have 2 large weights on machine - seen some early machines that had single thin weight , it seems a lot had none , and common problem was bent track frame or bad front idler . Counterweight is needed with a loader bucket .
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Full view of rear of machine
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Les Kerf
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Yes, counterweight is definitely needed. The toolbar we have has two cast iron weights on it, not sure what it weighs though. I will post pictures when we get it mounted. Thanks
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