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Travis2766 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 2015 Location: Amherst, Wi Points: 396 |
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Have always wanted a rotobaler and I found one that’s about 100 miles away. How much of a pain to tow would this be? Does the tounge swing over to make it narrower? How wide is one when towed? I know I’ll have to stop to grease the wheels often, I’m not sure if there’s a loader on that end to load on a trailer so towing may be my best option. It’s an orange top if that makes a difference. Just want to know what I may be getting in to. Thanks
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 78711 |
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can you WINCH it onto a trailer with a boat winch ? .... 100 Miles is a LONG WAY.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50855 |
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I pulled one across the GW bridge, in NY, once. They hadda open the toll guards, but I made it with a coupla inches to spare... I hauled it on a car trailer, it had one wheel on the trailer, and cribbing under the frame, and the other wheel was sticking out about a foot! Wouldn't do it for money, nowadays!
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Darwin W. Kurtz ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Westphalia, KS Points: 4814 |
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I would suggest hauling it, 100 miles on old tires and old bearings is almost always a challenge, although they are pretty wide from outside tire to outside tire. We loaded one once, set it on the trailer with the wheels over lapping each side (Too wide to back up onto any standard trailer ) Pretty awkward to pick up, I suggest an 80-100 horse tractor & loader....our 60 horse barely got it lifted up
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2878 |
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I've pulled a few one for over 150 miles,you need an offset hitch and make sure the baler is closed up.Bring a couple spare tires and a grease gun.
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1963D17 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jun 2021 Location: Alvord, Iowa Points: 84 |
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My sons 1998 Silverado has a square tube receiver hitch. I got a tube that fit inside it. Welded a receiver hitch box on the end of the tube. Slid it in the open end on the right hand side placing the hitch box behind the rh wheel. Drilled a hole thru both pieces to hold it in place. Worked perfect. Hauled two All-Crops and three Roto-Balers home 30 miles and they traveled right down the middle of the road.
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dr p ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1045 |
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The pick up head comes off pretty easily. I would take the head off, take the tongue off and put it all on a trailer. If it is an orange top, it is at least 60 years old. Your choice but i would rather be taking it apart in a safe place than on the highway
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Travis2766 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 2015 Location: Amherst, Wi Points: 396 |
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Closed up, so the hitch does swing? |
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dr p ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1045 |
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A hundred miles is a long way
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dkattau ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 20 Mar 2011 Location: Nebraska Points: 254 |
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They pull just fine with the hitch swung into the transport position. 30 mph, grease the hubs every hour.
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2878 |
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Not exactly swing you need to pull the pins in the hitch,put a block behind the outboard wheel and back up.Don't forget you'll need an AC ball to hook up.
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Lon(MN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Elk River,MN Points: 1927 |
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I have hauled three on my car trailer. They come apart pretty easy. About an hour to get it apart. Hard part is to get a loader to lift the parts on the trailer.
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WF owner ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4452 |
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A guy hauled one to the NY GOTO in June on a declkover trailer. He unloaded it with a winch and a trailer tongue dolly like this 600 lb. Trailer Dolly (harborfreight.com) .
IIRC, he had a wide board he used for the tire under the pickup side tire. I towed my cousin's Rotobaler about 20 miles when he bought it. it's been a long time, but I didn't think there was any way to "narrow" the hitch for transport. I hauled it from the regular (center) hitch on my truck. It was the first time I hauled a "left hand" implement and it wasn't fun.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8082 |
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They all have a swinging hitch.
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DanielW ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2022 Location: Ontario Points: 135 |
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I'm going to be the odd person out here: If the roads are quiet-ish, country roads (or if you can find a re-routing down country roads) and you don't have any other means of transport, I wouldn't be too hesitant to tow it. Good tires are a must, and you'll want to stop every 20 minutes and pump some grease to the wheels.
I towed an all crop 66 and a 90 from one farm to another, just over 130 km (80 miles). Both wide, awkward tows, and the 66 has bushings rather than bearings. Both went just fine. Probably made a few enemies on the road with how slow I was going, but no major incidents. See this link, where another guy talks about towing them: |
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2878 |
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Actually main roads are better more lane width,4 lane even better.We once pulled a Roto Baler thru Richmond VA on Broadstreet before they built I95 and I 64.I pulled a NH 851 over 200 miles
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Travis2766 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 2015 Location: Amherst, Wi Points: 396 |
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What is the gearbox? on the driveline for, why do some rotobalers have it and others don’t? It this the fast wrap that I’ve heard about?
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DanielW ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 2022 Location: Ontario Points: 135 |
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Yup, I believe so, but I've only seen one once, and that was on a baler sitting in a fencerow. They had an electric overdrive that would kick it into warp speed when the twine arm dropped. My understanding was that some of the (many) problems with the continuous functionality/bakcfeed conveyor of the #10's was when the high speed tie didn't kick in: Didn't tie fast enough and while it was wrapping, hay kept accumulating and built up too much backlog ahead of the pickup. Of course, there were many other issues with the #10's continuous baling functionality - that was only one small part of it. The ones I've seen had to maintain a pretty slow ground speed, or the upper bypass conveyor would backfeed and drop too much hay in front of the pickup and would start rolling hay into a ball right in the pickup where it was dropping. It was a pretty wacky idea to begin with: The baler was designed to be fed at a certain rate, and suddenly during the bypass period you're feeding twice as much for a short period once the bale ejects. So you either have to maintain a slow enough ground speed to handle twice the feed rate, even though you're only handling it for a small portion of the time and the rest of the time you're not using the baler to its full pickup potential. Or you travel at a decent speed to use the baler's normal pickup capacity, then it gets over-crowded when it does its bypass thing and starts balling up in the pickup. I think Allis had some of the best engineering in its time, but for that particular instance someone didn't know how to design for steady-state operation.
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2878 |
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Basically an electric over drive,I have a parts baler with one on it.
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200Tom1 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jun 2019 Location: Iowa Points: 1174 |
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Make sure the twine knife is new and the tension band on the left rear is not stuck to the drum.
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Dave Richards (WV) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fairmont, WV Points: 877 |
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![]() Edited by Dave Richards (WV) - 11 Nov 2023 at 5:14pm |
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