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Fred in Pa 
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Posted: 23 Aug 2023 at 11:51am |
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
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plummerscarin
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Posted: 23 Aug 2023 at 11:59am |
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Very nicely done. Don’t know why they never did that to begin with.
I’m certain my accountant would not like them had they done so.
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JC-WI
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Posted: 23 Aug 2023 at 10:34pm |
Somebody had too much time on their hands... tho it does have some 'beefy' looks to the D series design.
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."
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Sherman Farms
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Posted: 24 Aug 2023 at 8:15am |
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That's close to what the prototype looked like. I have seen a video of the early D-21 at the proving grounds that look close to that.
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PaulB
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Posted: 26 Aug 2023 at 8:08am |
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I'm certainly glad the designers at Allis Chalmers abandoned the idea of that ugly look for the D21 and went with the uniquely good looks of the production D21 tractors. It would have been great had Allis Chalmers use the same production D21 styling on more tractors. That MD21 is like looking at an AMC Pacer a which looked like a Ford Pinto with a bee sting. I can't really like the 7000 & 8000 series either although they are not as ugly as that MD21. That's just my opinion, you are welcome to yours.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 6:12am |
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I’ve never seen an MD21. Thanks for sharing the photo Fred. It would have been a great proving grounds prototype ~ competition scouts probably figured it was just another D19? Glad Industrial dept design team got final vote for their D21 good looks.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 6:36am |
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The actual D-21 prototype pics I have seen from the right side, appeared to have a D-262-T D-19 turbo engine. It was easily identified by the intake manifold and glow plug. Not saying they all had that engine (I doubt they did) but at least one of them did have the turbo'd Buda instead of the D-3400 engine.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 6:51am |
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That could have been the utility version and with 540/1000 RPM PTO would have been a tractor ahead of its time.Also good loader tractor.
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 8:48pm |
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The picture is of a replica of the prototype D21 as seen in that video. It was commissioned and is owned by Rich Bergeson. It is the best replication that could be built in a very short time and on a budget. I'm just home from seeing it in person. The original prototype had a Waukesha engine as did the prototype B and WC. I speculate that the rear end and transmission were ready for testing but not the 3400 engine so AC went down the road a got the Waukesha so at least half the tractor was tested. The current prototype replica has a 301,
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